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re: Mac Jones has highest single season QBR in history of NCAA football

Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7143 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:47 pm to
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wrong answer. Tua's single season 2019 rating (better than Burrow's) aren't counted by some sources due to the lack of minimum attempts (he missed some games) but his statistics in 2019 are counted in the career category


Yes, like the NCAA.

His statistics count but none of the 2019 numbers actually count toward any quarterback ranking records.

Not that its a bad thing necessarily, it may actually boost his career quarterback ranking, I don't know


no. You're just plain wrong. As previously noted, the ncaa records don't include Tua's pass efficiency record for the 2019 single season record because he didn't have the miniumum number of passes to qualify for their records (other sources do count it) but his passes in that season do count toward the career record. Every pass he threw in college counts toward his career record.

Here is the ncaa.org record website. Not ncaa.com, which really isn't the official ncaa website. Ncaa.org is the official website, and here on page 6, on the right hand side is PASSING records. Under Highest Passing Efficiency Rating Points category it list Tua Tagovailoa as career leader. I would also note that the 2020 season isn't included in these numbers. Mac Jones has now surpassed Joe Burrow for the single season record

HERE HERE HERE

EDIT: you will have to scroll down to page 6
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 12:52 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52714 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:47 pm to
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No. We wouldn't be making excuses for going 5-5. That's the problem here. That's the gap between arguments. You all won't admit it has nothing to do with covid or anything else. It's ONLY *muh 5-5.


Y'all made plenty of excuses for going 11-2 in 2019.

Its fine, fans make excuses, its what they do.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45150 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:48 pm to
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This again.


What exactly is inaccurate about what I said? I stated this site was "once a board on a LSU website". Are you insinuating it's not, dipshit?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65105 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:48 pm to
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Aww yea, sooosooo hard for Bwama with their 3-deep of 5 stars playing in a season where you can be forced to sit out of a game because of bullshite contract-tracing, which can change the whole dynamic of a season i.e. Lawrence being forced to sit against ND


Please explain to me how Lawrence being forced to sit out against Notre Dame changed the dynamic of the college football season. His back-up threw for over 400 yards and two touchdowns while Lawrence had lesser numbers in the re-match. What killed Clemson the first go around were the injuries on defense. And in the end it didn't matter as Clemson made the playoffs. Also...Lawrence being out due to contact tracing simply highlights my point about the difficulty of this past season and why Alabama's run is all the more impressive.

Also...Georgia and Ohio State, on paper, were more talented than Alabama this past season so don't talk to me about our roster.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16176 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:49 pm to
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Motherfricking kill shot.


Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16176 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:51 pm to
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dipshit

*5-5
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52714 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:52 pm to
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no. You're just plain wrong


My mistake, apologies BLG.

I thought we were talking single season records here because of the OP.

You're right in the case of career records.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45150 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:53 pm to
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Please explain to me how Lawrence being forced to sit out against Notre Dame changed the dynamic of the college football season.


Because they more than likely win with Lawrence the first go-round and ND is sitting at home during the playoffs.

And yes, you can be of the opinion that they'd still lose anyways. Neither of us know. It's just the fact of the matter that the star QB of CFB had to sit out for non-injury reasons.

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why Alabama's run is all the more impressive.


It's impressive in the context of comparing it to other teams in the same season. Comparisons to CFB seasons/teams from the past 50 years is still stupid as shite, though.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45150 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:54 pm to
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Nitro Express
It's okay to be wrong sometimes.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65105 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:56 pm to
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Because they more than likely win with Lawrence the first go-round and ND is sitting at home during the playoffs.


Based on what? His back-up played better against Notre Dame than Lawrence did in the ACC Championship Game. Clemson was missing two or three of their best defensive players that first game (I think all due to injury) which allowed the Irish to match scores with the Tigers.

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Comparisons to CFB seasons/teams from the past 50 years is still stupid as shite, though.


It always has been. This isn't new.
Posted by HotRock
Starkville,MS
Member since Aug 2018
510 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:57 pm to
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You make it sound like Bama had the best team ever.


They almost never play a team with better talent and rarely have to play teams with equal talent. This isn't some made up stat. Alabama's recruiting prowess is well documented.

You cannot evaluate a Bama QB going to NFL. You can project based on what you have seen and Mac Jones maybe that good but there so little usable game film to study.

Stats aren't meaningless if you never see him have to deal with pressure like he will in the NFL, but they sure have to be taken with a grain of salt.


Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16176 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:57 pm to
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It's okay to be wrong sometimes.


Except when you're not.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4657 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:58 pm to
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Mac Jones Heismans: 0
First Overall Picks in NFL Draft: 0


Burrow contract > Jones contract
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45150 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:00 pm to
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Based on what? His back-up played better against Notre Dame than Lawrence did in the ACC Championship Game.


This doesn't magically mean Trevor Lawrence's performance against them in the playoffs would exactly mirror how we would have done the first time.

Who are you to say Trevor Lawrence doesn't have a game just as good as the backup in the first game?

You're making very simplistic assumptions of how the game/gameflow of the first game would have gone simply because of the 2 end results we got.
Posted by HotRock
Starkville,MS
Member since Aug 2018
510 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:01 pm to
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Motherfricking kill shot.

Holy shite.




The stupidity of the Bama fanbase is astounding. Do any of you have a brain?
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45150 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:02 pm to
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Except when you're not.


Sure thing guy who didn't know the history of the board he signed up on
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16176 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:02 pm to
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Y'all made plenty of excuses for going 11-2 in 2019.

Its fine, fans make excuses, its what they do.


Saying our QB was injured half the season and worse than anyone was letting on is not making excuses. It's true. Last season he still wasn't fully recovered.

Regardless, that's not even close to being the same thing. Going 11-2 is a respectable year. We lost to two conference rivals that out played us on those days whether we had injuries or not.

Going 5-5, there's no excuse for that. That's shitting the bed. That's the stuff that gets coaches fired. 11-2, not so much.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16176 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:02 pm to
Neat-o.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30113 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:03 pm to
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Mac Jones is the best college QB I’ve ever seen when no fans are there.


You mean you didn’t watch Jeaux in Tiger Stadium in the second half?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52714 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:07 pm to
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Going 5-5, there's no excuse for that. That's shitting the bed. That's the stuff that gets coaches fired. 11-2, not so much.


I agree it was a shitty year but LSU also lost 17 of 22 starters and nearly 40 players overall.

Also they traded extra two SEC games for three OOC games so in a normal season, its more like 8-4 maybe.

Those things are all true and not really any more of excuses than Alabama fans made for 2019.

Fans are all the same everywhere.
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