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re: LSU's defense has been a complete embarrassment to the program

Posted on 8/12/25 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/12/25 at 3:57 pm to
I just looked at the depth chart from 2020-21.

If we had talent like that in 2022 or 2023 we would have been in the playoff.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
20141 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 3:59 pm to
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And we are actually a contender again this year,

Really getting ahead of yourself.

Why do LSU fans think this year will be a big jump for the defense?
Posted by KennesawTiger
Your's mom's house
Member since Dec 2006
8007 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:05 pm to
O took a national championship program and had it on life support inside of 2 years. The poor discipline, laziness and lack of accountability you speak of were all seeded by Orgeron.

You and many others have no idea how bad off the program was when Kelly was hired. O's mismanagement his last 2 years should have set LSU back a decade.

This is the first year Kelly has had that has seen all those players cycled out.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49476 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:17 pm to
I can’t wait for the next thread about how much Auburn and Bama hate each other

We only get like three or four a year now
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49476 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:18 pm to
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Why do LSU fans think this year will be a big jump for the defense?

Why would anyone who’s followed LSU ever think there might be a big jump?
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
7538 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:20 pm to
More success than Auburn in said timeframe. Just goes to show the difference in how outside fans expect out of each program.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65597 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:21 pm to
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Why do LSU fans think this year will be a big jump for the defense?


Why do we Alabama fans think our offense will take a big jump this year?


Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
7593 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:22 pm to
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Why do LSU fans think this year will be a big jump for the defense?
1st. We have real safeties this year. 2nd, we have our best lb corps we've had in years. 3rd, D line has legit depth this season. Keep your eyes on Gooden. He's played against Bama before. 4th. This will be our best cb's since BK has been there. 2nd year for Baker as well.
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:24 pm to
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More success than Auburn in said timeframe. Just goes to show the difference in how outside fans expect out of each program.
If you had Payton thorne and Robby ashford as your Qb, you wouldnt be making any bowl appearances either
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 4:25 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65597 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:29 pm to
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If you had Payton thorne and Robby ashford as your Qb, you wouldnt be making any bowl appearances either


2024 Payton Thorne had a better quarterback ranking than 2022 Jayden Daniels or 2024 Nussmeier.


Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
24640 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:37 pm to
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program by AuburnTigers

Its time for LSU fans to admit Bryan Kelly was a colossal failure of a hire.


Yep, I'll admit it... LSU shouldn't have hired him as the DC. But just think, if LSU had a legit DC then maybe BK would be undefeated against AU. Oh wait.... he is.





Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
24662 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:00 pm to
BK just doesn’t understand how physical these teams need to be. And cussing in practice won’t make them physical.
Posted by SOBMarcus
Boerne TX
Member since Apr 2020
2571 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:02 pm to
But Harold Perkins!!
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:03 pm to
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2024 Payton Thorne had a better quarterback ranking than 2022 Jayden Daniels or 2024 Nussmeier.

He was a born loser. he could make some good throws, but when the pressure was on, he folded like a cheap tent in every fricking game sans one, aTm.

If we needed a FG to tie, he would take a sack and back us outta range. If we needed a TD, he would throw a pick. PT and RA were the worst one two punch ive ever seen at Auburn.
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
1827 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:06 pm to
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2024 - ranked 14th in the SEC


I recall our D ranking in top 60 nationally which is solid but usually you want to be top 50 or higher to be championship-caliber, probably means quality of defense in 2024 SEC improved against the mean.

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2023 - ranked 13th in the SEC


Matt Moscona out of Baton Rouge constantly refers to this defense as the “worst defense in school history” not sure whether that’s technically true considering LSU fans lived through the 90s and 2020 with Bo Pelini wasn’t much better; nevertheless, it was excruciating watching that defense play that season

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Its time for LSU fans to admit Bryan Kelly was a colossal failure of a hire.


Compared to what?

Rounded up he’s averaged 10 wins/season as LSU skipper and made the SEC title game year 1. LSU’s been ranked in the top 25 basically 70-75% of his tenure and in the top 10 numerous weeks.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 5:09 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
39738 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:07 pm to
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only get like three or four a year now


It is curious how many threads get started about LSU but everyone here says they don't care about LSU.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5249 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:25 pm to
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LSU’s defense should be better. But it likely won’t be great. Kelly’s defenses have, with few exceptions, always gotten lit up like a Christmas tree when facing top 25 teams



I fully realize that LSU will have to prove it, in order for anyone to believe it. I will have to see it too.

But… with that said… if you followed our team like I do, it’s beyond obvious that this years defense will be significantly better.

1 - We had trash as DT’s last year and no depth. Our best DT (Jacobian Guillory) had a season ending injury before the season even started. Our 5 star FR DT, McKinley, who was hurt most the season, came on strong, and played very well in the last few games of the season last year will be a starter this season. A transfer from USF is looking very strong and will be a starter at the other DT spot. Guillory, who was our best, by far DT in the summer last year, can’t crack the starting lineup this year.

Our DE’s are significantly better this year with 5 star soph Relliford and transfers Payton from Florida State and Jack Pyburn from Florida.

Wes Weeks, who really played well at middle LB is back manning the middle this season. And… most importantly, Harold Perkins Jr is back after getting injured in the 3rd Quarter of the USC game last year and missing the entire season.

Safeties was the weakest part of the team last year, by far. It was beyond trash. The safety position group was improved drastically with transfers Tarmarcus Cooley all ACC from NC State and All Big 12 AJ Haulcey

Our cornerbacks will be significantly better with 5 star, best high school CB in the country last year DJ Pickett and transfers Mansoor Delane from Virginia Tech and JaKeem Jackson from Florida and returning starter JR Ashton stamps.

Every single position group has a massive talent upgrade through recruiting and key transfers over last year’s defense.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 5:29 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19314 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:02 pm to
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I can’t wait for the next thread about how much Auburn and Bama hate each other

We only get like three or four a year now


Dear sir, I would like to bring to your attention the fact that I have started four in the past week alone.

One was in fact was dedicated to a LSU fan.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18150 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:09 pm to
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It is a bit odd. Especially with how well they’ve recruited.

Recruiting hasn't been the problem. It's coaching.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5249 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:54 pm to
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Recruiting hasn't been the problem. It's coaching.


You’re such a clown. lol

Blake Baker first year at Missouri:

Scoring Defense: Reduced from 33.8 points per game in 2021 (113th nationally) to 25.2 points per game in 2022 (56th nationally).

Total Defense: Dropped from 434.7 yards per game (106th nationally) to 340.8 yards per game (34th nationally) under Baker.

In Baker’s 2nd season at Missouri:

Scoring Defense: Improved to 22.33 PPG, ranking 42nd nationally (from 25.2 PPG, 56th in 2022)

Total Defense: Slight dip but remained strong—347.2 YPG, ranking 38th nationally (from 339.9 YPG, 34th in 2022.

Blake Baker first year at LSU:

Scoring Defense: Points allowed ranking improved from 82nd in 2023 to 59Th in 2024.

Total Defense: LSU improved its total defense from 105th nationally in 2023 to
67th in 2024.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 7:56 pm
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