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re: LSU Rush Defense: By the numbers

Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:36 am to
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and unless Fromm runs like Plummlee

Fromm couldn't run like Plummlee if you let him do it in a Corvette
Posted by Dawgy49
North Georgia
Member since Sep 2015
4851 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:38 am to
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That surprises me... I thought Georgia would be in the top 15.


Nope, As I stated above, our offense usually faces a stacked box forcing us to throw. If we can’t throw, defenses concentrate on shutting down the run game.

Interestingly Georgia’s defense has faced rushing offenses that average about the same as LSU’s defense.
Posted by Brobocop
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2018
1903 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:39 am to
quote:

If Fromm and his receivers have some success, then our offense is effective. If not, we struggle.


LSU's passing Defense has been really really good this season.

Over 12 games, teams are 51% complete against our secondary.

that being said, teams are attempting WAY more passes against us, due to playing from behind.

LSU is ranked 97th in passing attempts against this season.
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:51 am to
LSU is too good on the corners to throw back shoulder fades all day and call it a game plan.
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:52 am to
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DawgRff


This is a fricking message board about college football. GFY.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78497 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:54 am to
LSU is weirdly “ Break but not bend “ lol. We play very solid, 3 and outs, punts, up 3 touchdowns fast. And then we give up these weird big plays.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7637 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:55 am to
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That seems somewhat fair, but it also is in some sense a sample size of 1. Plumlee's by far the most dynamic QB y'all have faced this year in terms of running the ball.

I don't think it makes sense to completely discount that, given who you might face in the playoffs.



there was a flaw there to be exploited it was there in the Texas game, Ole Miss had the athlete to do that. But also since Ole Miss there have been some similar plays run by Arkansas and A&M that didn't work as well.

I just hope they fixed it as opposed to another good running QB could gash us because we could very well wind up facing Hurts and Fields in the playoffs and they are every bit as good running as Plumlee is.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:13 am to
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Interestingly Georgia’s defense has faced rushing offenses that average about the same as LSU’s defense.

Wait, what?

As far as LSU rushing offense, they rank 33rd in ypr at 4.95.

Teams on UGA's schedule that rank higher:
#4 KY (6.36)

UGA ranks #19 at 5.22 ypr. Teams on LSU's schedule that rank higher:
#7 State (5.52)
#12 Mississippi (5.39)

Other notables (#50 or better) on UGA's schedule:
#38 Notre Dame (4.86)
#41 Auburn (4.83)
#47 A&M (4.69)

Other notables on LSU's schedule:
#26 GSU (5.06)
#27 Alabama (5.02)
#41 Auburn (4.83)
#47 A&M (4.69)
#48 Texas (4.66)
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26780 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:22 am to
rush defense?

when you race out in front 14-21 points... what opponent is going "yeah, we can just run our way back into this"
Posted by twindavinci
Spring, TX
Member since Feb 2016
523 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:23 am to
Arkansas and A&M tried, Lsu has adjusted
Posted by Dawgy49
North Georgia
Member since Sep 2015
4851 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:37 am to
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Wait, what?


LSU has faced:
Texas 54
Vandy 112
Utah State 84
Florida 122
Miss St 17
Auburn 27
Alabama 58
Ole Miss 12
Arkansas 86
TD A&M 75
Avg. 65

Georgia!s defense has faced;

Ky 5
Auburn 27
N.D. 47
G.T. 72
Mizz 74
A&M 75
S.C. 82
TN 88
Vandy 112
Florida 122
Avg. 70

Probably more accurate to just compare common opponents with the results


Vandy. LSU 145, Ga 115
Florida ..LSU 146, Ga 22
Auburn ..LSU 150, Ga. 87
A&M ..LSU 70, Ga. -1
S.C. ..LSU. 45, Ga 128



This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 11:51 am
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
17694 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:40 am to
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Georgia then throws in an effort to open up the running game. If Fromm and his receivers have some success, then our offense is effective. If not, we struggle.




well looking at the numbers you have struggled for most of the year
Posted by BamaTide126728
Member since Oct 2019
317 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:41 am to
Cmon go easy on him. Not everyone can give up 200 yards rushing to a QB
Posted by Dawgy49
North Georgia
Member since Sep 2015
4851 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:48 am to
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well looking at the numbers you have struggled for most of the year


Fromm for the year. ...62% completion rate, 21 TDs, 3 INTs.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64571 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:51 am to
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I don't think it makes sense to completely discount that, given who you might face in the playoffs.

Fair points, but I do think it makes sense to discard that when playing Georgia this weekend because Fromm is the polar opposite of Plumlee, and he accounted for 212 yards by himself against LSU
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 12:07 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:53 am to
quote:

If you take Georgia's worst game (USC) out of the averages, we are ranked #1 or #2 and LSU is #4.


quote:

This is stupider than stupid.


Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:01 pm to
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Fromm for the year. ...62% completion rate


Under 50% for the last four consecutive games. That has to be worrisome, especially if Swift is indeed not 100%.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64571 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

LSU faced these FBS rushing offenses this year

Texas 54
Vandy 112
Utah State 84
Florida 122
Miss State 17
Auburn 27
Alabama 58
Ole Miss 12
Arkansas 86
TD A&M 75

Georgia. 33

Compared with LSU opponents' season averages and what LSU did against them:

1. GA Southern 261/74 (187 below season average) also not sure why you left them out as they're 8th in the nation running the football

2. Texas 172/121 (51 below season average)

3. Northwestern St 79/46 (28 below season average)

4. Vanderbilt 124/145 (21 above season average)

5. Utah St 149/19 (130 below season average)

6. Florida 120/146 (26 above season average)

7. Miss State 226/102 (124 below season average)

8. Auburn 211/130 (81 below season average)

9. Alabama 170/123 (47 below season average)

10. Ole Miss 251/402 (151 above season average)

11. Arkansas 147/114 (33 below their season average)

12. Texas A&M 152/72 (80 below season average)

Totals:

LSU gave up more than their opponent's season average three times this year

On average, LSU held opponents to 47 fewer yards than they average per game.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 12:07 pm
Posted by Dawgy49
North Georgia
Member since Sep 2015
4851 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:06 pm to
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Under 50% for the last four consecutive games. That has to be worrisome, especially if Swift is indeed not 100%.


Swift is a concern. Fromm has been a big game QB his whole career at Georgia. We’ll see.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 12:07 pm
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
17694 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:06 pm to
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Cmon go easy on him. Not everyone can give up 200 yards rushing to a QB



or lose to a dog shite USC team
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