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LSU Rush Defense: By the numbers
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:03 am
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:03 am
Despite what the national media's perception on LSU's Defense is, the reality is, they are good at stopping the run.
If you take LSU's best performance (Utah State) and worst performance (Ole Miss) out of the averages.
LSU's rush defensive stats:
Yards per game: 102.7 --> Ranks 10th in the country
TDs per game: 0.7 --> Ranks 8th in the country
Yards per carry: 3.12 --> Ranks 12th in the country
It's my opinion that LSU will sell out on stopping the run, and unless Fromm runs like Plummlee, they will probably have some success in doing so.
If you take LSU's best performance (Utah State) and worst performance (Ole Miss) out of the averages.
LSU's rush defensive stats:
Yards per game: 102.7 --> Ranks 10th in the country
TDs per game: 0.7 --> Ranks 8th in the country
Yards per carry: 3.12 --> Ranks 12th in the country
It's my opinion that LSU will sell out on stopping the run, and unless Fromm runs like Plummlee, they will probably have some success in doing so.
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:04 am to Brobocop
The numbers are solid despite the bad outing vs Ole Miss. LSU's D has only played one game to their full potential.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:07 am to Brobocop
Math nerd stuff:
Taking out the best and worst doesn't make sense for a quantity that's got a natural lower bound. It tends to skew the results downward. (Taking out the highest value has more of an effect on the average than taking out the lowest value, typically in this scenario).
Non-math-nerd stuff:
Yeah, I'd take LSU's defense over bama's this year for sure if I was being purely objective. They are 100% clutch when the game's in question.
Taking out the best and worst doesn't make sense for a quantity that's got a natural lower bound. It tends to skew the results downward. (Taking out the highest value has more of an effect on the average than taking out the lowest value, typically in this scenario).
Non-math-nerd stuff:
Yeah, I'd take LSU's defense over bama's this year for sure if I was being purely objective. They are 100% clutch when the game's in question.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 10:09 am
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:11 am to biclops
I don't think it's a stretch at all to call the Ole Miss rush defense performance an "outlier".
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:15 am to Brobocop
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I don't think it's a stretch at all to call the Ole Miss rush defense performance an "outlier".
That seems somewhat fair, but it also is in some sense a sample size of 1. Plumlee's by far the most dynamic QB y'all have faced this year in terms of running the ball.
I don't think it makes sense to completely discount that, given who you might face in the playoffs.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:15 am to Brobocop
I think LSU's D is underrated, and UGA's offense has been very predictable. I think UGA's counter will be to try to use James Cook on the edges to soften the middle. It's a basic strategy but can be effective. We will have to use our TEs more than ever before in this game also.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:16 am to Brobocop
It is an outlier but I still think it’s valid as there is just such a small sample size in CFB
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:18 am to Brobocop
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and worst performance (Ole Miss) out of the averages.
This is stupider than stupid.
If you take Georgia's worst game (USC) out of the averages, we are ranked #1 or #2 and LSU is #4.
See how that works?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:18 am to Brobocop
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Despite what the national media's perception on LSU's Defense is, the reality is, they are good at stopping the run
We'll see how good they are when they face a real run oriented team like Georgia this week, especially with Swift if he is healthy, and Herrion. Also, they definitely will be tested by that rock hard O-line of OSU and their trio of backs led by JK Dobbins. That's if they meet, which I think will happen.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:21 am to bayou prince
LSU's defense has guys who can make plays, they just also make a lot of mistakes.
It was mentioned in another thread but they do kind of remind me of the 2010 Auburn defense a little bit. They have more players and aren't as disruptive up front, but the general way they play compares.
It was mentioned in another thread but they do kind of remind me of the 2010 Auburn defense a little bit. They have more players and aren't as disruptive up front, but the general way they play compares.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:22 am to Hobnailboot
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I think UGA's counter will be to try to use James Cook on the edges to soften the middle.
My source tells me an RB has been working on passing the ball for the last month and we will run the Wild Dawg all game. LSU is toast.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:25 am to Brobocop
LSU faced these FBS rushing offenses this year
Texas 54
Vandy 112
Utah State 84
Florida 122
Miss State 17
Auburn 27
Alabama 58
Ole Miss 12
Arkansas 86
TD A&M 75
Georgia. 33
Texas 54
Vandy 112
Utah State 84
Florida 122
Miss State 17
Auburn 27
Alabama 58
Ole Miss 12
Arkansas 86
TD A&M 75
Georgia. 33
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 10:26 am
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:25 am to Hobnailboot
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think LSU's D is underrated, and UGA's offense has been very predictable. I think UGA's counter will be to try to use James Cook on the edges to soften the middle. It's a basic strategy but can be effective. We will have to use our TEs more than ever before in this game also.
You’re probably right. What it’s going to come down to is whether Georgia can have success throwing the ball in the middle of the field. Fromm likes to live on the edges, and he will have some success there, but that won’t be enough to keep up IMO. Also If he goes to that well too many times, Stingley or Fulton will make him pay for it (like what happened against UF).
There may be some success running as well, but again...against an offense that scores on average of every 2 minutes, you’re gonna have to have some dynamic pass plays to keep up.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 10:27 am
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:27 am to AlaCowboy
I think it's completely valid to remove USC out of y'alls overall body of work or talent level...
Especially because it was a game where Fromm attempted over 50 passes (I think), something that UGA never really does.
This isn't the CFP posting.. Take that up with them, Chief.
Especially because it was a game where Fromm attempted over 50 passes (I think), something that UGA never really does.
This isn't the CFP posting.. Take that up with them, Chief.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:27 am to Brobocop
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It's my opinion that LSU will sell out on stopping the run, and unless Fromm runs like Plummlee, they will probably have some success in doing so
That would be a mistake.
Georgia continuously decides to throw more often than you would think. I think you accept that Georgia is going to run it effectively...and you make your living against Fromm.
That's been how Georgia has been beaten over the last couple of years.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:29 am to Hobnailboot
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Hobnailboot
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I think LSU's D is underrated, and UGA's offense has been very predictable. I think UGA's counter will be to try to use James Cook on the edges to soften the middle. It's a basic strategy but can be effective. We will have to use our TEs more than ever before in this game also.
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AlaCowboy
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My source tells me an RB has been working on passing the ball for the last month and we will run the Wild Dawg all game. LSU is toast.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:30 am to moneyg
Why would you allow them to have success with their strength??
That would be like UGA loading the box against our offense trying to stop the run.
That would be like UGA loading the box against our offense trying to stop the run.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:31 am to Dawgy49
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Texas 54 Vandy 112 Utah State 84 Florida 122 Miss State 17 Auburn 27 Alabama 58 Ole Miss 12 Arkansas 86 TD A&M 75 Georgia. 33
That surprises me... I thought Georgia would be in the top 15.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:33 am to moneyg
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Georgia continuously decides to throw more often than you would think. I think you accept that Georgia is going to run it effectively...and you make your living against Fromm.
Georgia’s offense typically sees a stacked box in an effort to make us throw the ball. Georgia then throws in an effort to open up the running game. If Fromm and his receivers have some success, then our offense is effective. If not, we struggle.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:35 am to AlaCowboy
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My source tells me an RB has been working on passing the ball for the last month and we will run the Wild Dawg all game. LSU is toast.
It would not surprise me one bit if Kirby was scheming a "Wild Cat" offense to try and emulate what Ole Miss did.
It would probably be very smart of them.
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