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re: LSU now under federal investigation

Posted on 2/6/21 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33481 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 6:54 pm to
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Especially since it seems like the substance abuse is back.


Oh boy. You got some proof or are you just trying to slander someone?
Posted by bfpri
Member since Jul 2014
694 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 7:15 pm to
okay. LSU is boned.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46212 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

Currently it’s LSU


There's my answer

Karma is a bitch too......
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30790 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:30 pm to
Man these are some bad things LSU did.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
81783 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 9:31 am to
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Ed Orgeron had to have his lawyer draft a statement. You don’t do that if there are no allegations of impropriety.
If you knew your words were to be included in a federal or NCAA investigation. . .you would not task a lawyer with writing it? Even if you ARE a lawyer, you hire a lawyer.

That's just good sense, not evidence of impropriety. Too many of you disaffected housewife, Forensic Files and CSI fans have been conditioned to believe that "lawyering up" is a sign of some kind of guilt.

Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
25420 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 10:13 am to
I’m going to enjoy the next few months.
Posted by SCDawg95
Fayetteville ,NC
Member since Oct 2019
6312 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 10:15 am to
Let’s Go!
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
34233 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 10:22 am to
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There's my answer


Yep, LSU is currently under multiple investigations from multiple agencies from everything to covering up student athletes sexual assaults, severing a self imposed “probation” involving scholarship reductions and post season ban for admitted cheating, while being led by a HC with a substance abuse history..

Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
25075 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 1:31 pm to
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Too many of you disaffected housewife, Forensic Files and CSI fans have been conditioned to believe that "lawyering up" is a sign of some kind of guilt.

Yep, 0’s guilty af. It I still want LSU to keep him as their HC.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 1:45 pm to
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If you knew your words were to be included in a federal or NCAA investigation


This was before the federal investigation.

The internal LSU investigation and NCAA investigation are very limited in scope and are not court testimonies. The majority of the individuals providing information in these investigations are likely doing so without legal counsel.

You don’t need a lawyer to say “I had 0 awareness”, or “I reported this ASAP to this person”.

The lawyer allows you to keep negative information that’s not strictly in the scope of these investigations out of the hands of the investigators.

It’s a smart move if he rode the line between accidental non-compliance (which is not necessarily a fire-able offense) and complicit negligence (definitely a fire-able offense).

The federal investigation is likely trickier as a lot of those come with real legal consequences for providing false information and assumed non-compliance for refusing to respond to investigators.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66291 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 1:47 pm to
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You don’t need a lawyer to say “I had 0 awareness”, or “I reported this ASAP to this person”.


Who said he even used a lawyer?
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13054 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 1:52 pm to
“Complicit negligence”?
Thanks, Mr. law professor...
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 2:02 pm to
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Thanks, Mr. law professor...


I’m not a lawyer, and these investigations don’t [currently] involve a courtroom. Plenty of every-day people deal with these types of inquiries/audits/whatever without lawyers.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
81783 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 2:19 pm to
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This was before the federal investigation.
The complaints are Title IX complaints, there has to be a federal investigation. . .unless informal resolution can be obtained.

Since this was rape allegations covered up by the Tennis coaches, there was no way it was going to be resolved informally. . .unless the girls made it up (which they did not).

Every fan on this board knew this was going to be a federal investigation involving T9 complaints against some football players. They also are aware that any internal investigation available to NCAA compliance. Obviously Orgeron and the AD's knew this as well. In this scenario, you lawyer up or you get fricked.

Everyone, who has read the public records and articles, also understands that this is not involving the football, basketball, or baseball programs. . .which fully met their compliance procedures. The only people who are suggesting otherwise are people ignorant of the case, or people just having some fun at LSU fans' expense.

If you have some information that leads you to think the football program is involved in a cover-up, please inform: compliance@lsu.edu

PS- Conjecture is not evidence, fwiw
This post was edited on 2/7/21 at 2:24 pm
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
15271 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 2:25 pm to
Slap on the wrist. WTF is the DOE going to do to LSU?
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
81783 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 2:26 pm to
Death penalty for the Tennis team?
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 3:04 pm to
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Conjecture is not evidence, fwiw


This is a message board. There is 0 evidence and all conjecture. You argue using what you have available to you.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
25420 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 4:02 pm to
He needed a lawyer in order to be understood
This post was edited on 2/7/21 at 4:03 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66291 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 4:03 pm to
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He needed a lawyer in order to be understand


I mean if we're being honest, the statement was likely written by the PR team.

You know, to avoid typos like you just made.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
25420 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 5:03 pm to
Sometimes when you write things out on an iPad it just changes words.
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