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re: LSU now suing in federal court

Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:58 pm to
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When LSU loses this thing y'all are going to pretend you never cared about this case as a deflection and I want every post like that you can muster to make sure the crow pie is too large to be ignored.


I never cared about this case... just so it's there in November when this thread gets bumped.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51554 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:59 pm to
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He pretty much put in his resignation as soon as the season was over. He gave a month notice.


So, he put in his resignation in the beginning of January, therefore, he was an employee of LSU until February, correct? Yet it was well known that he was recruiting for Aggie, on their dime, before officially being on staff or officially off of LSU's staff.

Sounds like a breach of contract and recruiting violation to me.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 3:00 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:59 pm to
We aren't wiggling out of paying anything. We said we would pay it for Chavis. It is his choice. Well it was his choice, now it's the judge's choice.

Most coaching hires get cleaned up before the end of the season, but often for top talent it's not that way. Especially for new coaches.

Heck this is a relative standard anyway, like coaches pay. In Texas the richest program here tried to dodge a half million buyout by lying about a coach's roll last season. Let's not act like we are the only ones ever to push back on a buyout.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51554 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 3:01 pm to
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Let's not act like we are the only ones ever to push back on a buyout.


Never said aTm was.

Funny you should say this seeing as it's aTm fans acting like LSU is the only school to ever try and hold a coach to their buyout agreement.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 3:04 pm
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27567 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 3:02 pm to
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Let's not act like we are the only ones ever to push back on a buyout.


Haven't seen this said once. A&M is looking out for its own interests. As is LSU.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 3:03 pm to
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sounds like a breach of contract


So you HAVE seen the contract? Good thing an experienced judge who will see it will decide instead of you.

shite if TD got to decide, this was over when the pictures got posted. Court is different.

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and a recruiting violation


Wah. Call the NCAA today and ask if they give a shite if it concerns you. The day we have real news they are investigating is the day this talking point matters.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51554 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 3:08 pm to
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So you HAVE seen the contract?


Dude, you're the one saying he gave his resignation in January. I'm going off of what you're claiming.

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Wah. Call the NCAA today and ask if they give a shite if it concerns you. The day we have real news they are investigating is the day this talking point matters.


Again, I'm going off of what you're claiming here, which makes Chavis an LSU employee who was actively recruiting for aTm. That's a recruiting violation.


I honestly don't care how this plays out. I just find it hilarious that you Ags have convinced yourselves that Chavis has done absolutely nothing shady and LSU is grasping at straws.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62682 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 3:24 pm to
Now hang on, all y'all said he didn't recruit for y'all or us. You said his pics with recruits were just because he happened to be standing in the background at the office

Quit changing your story!
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51554 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 3:29 pm to
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Now hang on, all y'all said he didn't recruit for y'all or us.


Well, his recruiting habits got, shall we say, lazy while at LSU. I'm sure y'all will see similar tendancies sooner or later.

Don't tell me you've never tried to impress a new employer by putting on a good show. If you do, I'll say you're full of shite.


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You said his pics with recruits were just because he happened to be standing in the background at the office


Isn't there a picture of him at one of the recruits houses?
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62682 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 3:31 pm to
I believe y'all said he was photoshopped into that one
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51554 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 3:31 pm to
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I believe y'all said he was photoshopped into that one


Don't say y'all. They.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27567 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 4:42 pm to
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That is the real question. I assume it's because the LSU AD made this personal, so he is going to try to hold Chavis to a standard no other coach gets held to. And it won't work because in the real world a judge decides and not him.


Wow, you've really no idea what you're talking about now. Why would LSU pursue this if the original contract is not enforceable? And no other coach is held to this? So no other coach has ever had to pay for breach of contract, and no coach has ever been paid for being terminated by a university before a contract is up? You aggys man... You really can't make up your counter points.

Keep telling yourself Aggy has this in the bag and all the smoke Chavis was employed by A&M in January is all irrelevant. If a judgment goes against LSU, I'll be a man and eat my crow. I'd venture a guess you won't though, but I'm sure we'll all hear about how A&M has more money than God and could pay it 50x over, blah, blah, blah...
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 4:57 pm to
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Keep telling yourself Aggy has this in the bag

you realize we don't give a frick, right? We're not really a party here. We're honestly only in this thread to laugh at you, No matter how it turns out, Chavis will be our DC next year. The money was guaranteed by a booster and he's also paying Chavis's legal fees. He's the only interested party on our end (including Chavis to whom the verdict is completely irrelevant).

The only reason this is in court is because Alleva needs a "rally round the flag" issue to keep people from turning on him. Otherwise it would have been settled the next day.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27567 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 5:49 pm to
Sure. This thread is full of non-caring aggys. Y'all really are something
Posted by LL012697
Texas
Member since May 2013
4045 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 5:55 pm to
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Wouldn't be surprised if the term "being a bitch" was somewhere in your French laws.


Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 6:02 pm to
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LSU now suing in federal court
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The attorney and court fees must be getting near the same as the measly amount of the suit.


Reading obviously not being your strong suit, you completely misstated the facts. Chavis sued LSU. LSU is asking for that suit, that Chavis filed against LSU, to be removed to federal court so that a crooked Texas state judge doesn't get to rule on it. LSU is not suing Chavis in federal court, at least not in the filing addressed in this article.

Chavis has handled this in such trashy fashion, even to the point of attempting to forum-shop with his silly lawsuit against LSU. He knows he owes the money, and he's just playing stupid childish games. Sad to see a guy who had built up a good stash of respect and goodwill just flush it down the toilet like that.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78514 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 6:30 pm to
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Frankly, I'm surprised. Chavis was instrumental in giving LSU its best football season - 2011. I would have expected more gratitude from LSU.


Apparently we should be grateful that he phoned in a bowl game.

I liked chavis.

Think he is a great coach 95% of the time. And one of the best Xs and O's guys not named Saban. I also thought he had a lot of integrity until all this fricking nonsense.

If he hadn't clearly given up on his players i probably wouldn't have cared as much, but thats low.
Posted by TexAgChill
Member since Mar 2015
2450 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 6:35 pm to
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He knows he owes the money, and he's just playing stupid childish games


Most people think LSU is playing the childish games. LSU sued Chavis in an attempt to avoid paying him for the time he worked for LSU during his tenure. But, it's really a smoke and mirrors game for the real issues. Chavis lawyers advised him to sue a few hours earlier. Good move on his part.

Losing the prized coach to an SEC rival was embarrassing to Alleva. He would rather confuse LSU fans with this lawsuit then deal with the reasons Chavis wanted out in the first place.

It's time for LSU to move on and show some gratitude to the man. It's the right thing to do.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 6:43 pm to
We might settle, I totally think that is a possibility. Not because LSU is right, but to remove the distraction if he wants it gone.

If this goes all the way to judgement though Chavis isn't going to end up paying all that money. And I will eat my words if I am wrong.
Posted by TexAgChill
Member since Mar 2015
2450 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:08 pm to
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If this goes all the way to judgement though Chavis isn't going to end up paying all that money. And I will eat my words if I am wrong.


You're right. If Chavis wins good for him. If he loses, TAMU has his back. It's a no lose game for Chavis.
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