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re: LSU now suing in federal court

Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by AgsNguyening
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:31 pm to
Keep hoping that is true. It is pretty clear that your AD wrote up a shitty contract and what LSU thinks is enforceable, can't be enforced. I guess we will see what the judge says, but I like our chances and we don't have a whole lot to lose either way, because we have the guy we want.

Also, the NCAA talk is absolute nonsense and seems more wishful thinking that anything fact base.

Also, just wanted to let you know that the LSU hiring of Kevin Steele was the first time in the history of the SEC that a Defensive Coordinator was hired who, in a previous DC capacity, gave up 70 points in a game to another team. Just thought you might like to know that.
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
Branson, MO
Member since Jan 2006
15464 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:33 pm to
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First Speedy, now Chavis. Texas A&M just reaches across the border of Lousianna and takes what it wants.


If they're this good at taking what they want, then you would think they would take a win for a change.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 7:16 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51554 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:36 pm to
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teele was the first time in the history of the SEC that a Defensive Coordinator was hired who, in a previous DC capacity, gave up 70 points in a game to another team. Just thought you might like to know


Well, I guess it's a good thing football seasons consist of more than just one game. Amirite?
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62682 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:36 pm to
This year
Posted by RichardCranium
Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA
Member since Aug 2005
2556 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:37 pm to
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He was making a pre-emptive strike. Didn't want to wait until 3rd down.


You mean he didnt want to "3rd and Chavis" Himself?

That was fun.
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15659 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:46 pm to
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AgsNguyening
LSU now suing in federal court


Keep hoping that is true. It is pretty clear that your AD wrote up a shitty contract and what LSU thinks is enforceable, can't be enforced. I guess we will see what the judge says, but I like our chances and we don't have a whole lot to lose either way, because we have the guy we want.

Also, the NCAA talk is absolute nonsense and seems more wishful thinking that anything fact base.

Also, just wanted to let you know that the LSU hiring of Kevin Steele was the first time in the history of the SEC that a Defensive Coordinator was hired who, in a previous DC capacity, gave up 70 points in a game to another team. Just thought you might like to know that.




AGsN,
Why so vitriolic ??
The only thing wrong with Chavis' contract was that LSU did not want to extend his contract one more year of guaranteed money.
How is that a "shitty" contract ??????????????

We made Chavis rich and he repays us by wanting 3 more years of guaranteed money vs 2. He was THAT petty ??????????????? (That plus the fact he was dishonest in his communications over the final few weeks of 2014, and it may have affected his 'decision making' in the bowl game.)

The Kevin Steele comment is your opinion. We will see how Steele does in Baton Rouge.

Just at the risk of being a Devils's Advocate, I don't think many LSU fans would have complained had Chavis stayed. He got along very well with Les. It was the LSU Administration that had a problem with Chavis.

If you've "got the man you want", why are you so concerned
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 1:48 pm
Posted by AgsNguyening
USA
Member since Jul 2014
2798 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:04 pm to
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The Kevin Steele comment is your opinion

No, it is actually a fact. No SEC team has ever hired a DC who in a previous DC stint gave up 70 points in a single game.

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The only thing wrong with Chavis' contract was that LSU did not want to extend his contract one more year of guaranteed money

This is actually opinion. You haven't seen the contract. Neither have I. However logic dictates that is the provisions were clearly defined, an attorney and two tier one university wouldn't be going to court over it.

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We made Chavis rich

No. Chavis made Chavis rich. You paid him what you thought he was worth. We thought he was worth more and took him away from you.

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If you've "got the man you want", why are you so concerned

Pretty confident we either win the case, it is thrown out of court or we settle. Not concerned at all really. Just fun to discuss and see tigger get their tails tucked to cover their sack. Do you even rant bra?
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15659 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:06 pm to
WTF is wrong with you ???????
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51554 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:06 pm to
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No. Chavis made Chavis rich. You paid him what you thought he was worth. We thought he was worth more and took him away from you.


Chavis was making $300K per year before LSU gave him a huge bump. LSU most certainly did make Chavis rich.
Posted by Tecate
Member since Nov 2012
1007 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:17 pm to
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We made Chavis rich and he repays us by wanting 3 more years of guaranteed money vs 2. He was THAT petty ??????


quote:

WTF is wrong with you ???????






Nope, no LSU butt hurt here folks.
Posted by AgsNguyening
USA
Member since Jul 2014
2798 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:21 pm to
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LSU most certainly did make Chavis rich.

I know what you are trying to say. I prefer to think that people earn what they are worth. Statements like this just seem to indicate that LSU gave him a bunch of money out of their good graces and Chavis had nothing to do with it. I don't buy it. He was a great DC for y'all and as such you paid him what he was worth. He most definitely earned the money you paid him. It wasn't charity work.
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10968 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:24 pm to
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Nope, no LSU butt hurt here folks.



Delusion and Aggie go hand in hand, poor lil guys. You'll win against LSU someday
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
19694 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:26 pm to
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I, as many other LSU fans have been on the fence with Chavis for years.




You must not have posted on this board when the rumors of Chavis and A&M began to surface. Not only were they laughed out, but the overwhelming LSU sentiment was that Miles was nothing without Chavis.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51554 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:30 pm to
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He was a great DC for y'all and as such you paid him what he was worth


He was a great DC for Tenn too, and he would have stayed there at $300K if Fulmer hadn't gotten canned.

Spin it all you want, but LSU made Chavis the highest paid Coordinator is the NCAA. Therefore, LSU made Chavis rich.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 2:32 pm
Posted by TexAgChill
Member since Mar 2015
2450 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:48 pm to
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You must not have posted on this board when the rumors of Chavis and A&M began to surface. Not only were they laughed out, but the overwhelming LSU sentiment was that Miles was nothing without Chavis.


You can't blame LSU fans for trying to put their best spin on this situation. Deep down they understand.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:48 pm to
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Furthermore, why would LSU even file a counterclaim if he was so undeniably in the right?


That is the real question. I assume it's because the LSU AD made this personal, so he is going to try to hold Chavis to a standard no other coach gets held to. And it won't work because in the real world a judge decides and not him.

Keep thinking those recruiting photos mean anything in a court, or that the NCAA gives a shite. When LSU loses this thing y'all are going to pretend you never cared about this case as a deflection and I want every post like that you can muster to make sure the crow pie is too large to be ignored.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51554 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:51 pm to
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so he is going to try to hold Chavis to a standard no other coach gets held to


Well, this is just plain false. Most coaches tender their resignation weeks prior to the end of the season so that they can recruit for their new employer without having to deal with the grace period.

Furthermore, when coaches do tender their resignation so close to the end of the season they, or more often their new employers, pay their buyouts to avoid the grace period.

So, Chavis is being held to the same exact standard as everyone else.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 2:52 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:52 pm to
Y'all have NEVER had a coach recruit before the official hire? Ever?

He pretty much put in his resignation as soon as the season was over. He gave a month notice.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 2:54 pm
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27566 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:53 pm to
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Keep hoping that is true.

You should heed your own advice.

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It is pretty clear that your AD wrote up a shitty contract and what LSU thinks is enforceable, can't be enforced.

Is it really that clear? You've some insider information that's material here? And what AD writes up his own contracts? I guarantee you LSU has a team of lawyers draft all contracts that Alleva approves. From a legal standpoint, it's probably sound. Although I understand A&M hopes it's not lest they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

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Also, the NCAA talk is absolute nonsense and seems more wishful thinking that anything fact base.


Again, you have material information or are you just talking out of your butt?

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Also, just wanted to let you know that the LSU hiring of Kevin Steele was the first time in the history of the SEC that a Defensive Coordinator was hired who, in a previous DC capacity, gave up 70 points in a game to another team. Just thought you might like to know that.


I'm really upset now. I don't know what LSU is going to do this fall...we don't stand a chance against any team on our schedule. BUT, what is the excuse from Aggy going to be when even with our terrible DC...we still beat you?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51554 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:54 pm to
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Y'all have NEVER had a coach recruit before the official hire? Ever?


I haven't seen any pictures of it, so it's all hearsay at this point. Also, they, and LSU, aren't trying to wiggle out of paying the buyout.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 2:55 pm
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