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re: LSU now suing in federal court

Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:30 am to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:30 am to
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Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:32 am to
This is an old article... February 28, but I think it's somewhat accurate.

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"He could have been recruiting or working for Texas A&M for free at the time or as a consultant and remain free of the buyout so long as he was not on the school's payroll yet," said Baton Rouge attorney Jill Craft, who is not working on either side of the Chavis case but has years of experience in contract law.

New coaching hires in college football in December and January often begin recruiting immediately with their contracts being completed later.

Chavis did not go on Texas A&M's payroll, according to the Houston Chronicle, until Feb. 13, which is the date he was announced as the Aggies' new defensive coordinator along with other staff additions by head coach Kevin Sumlin.


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Without having access to Chavis's contract as written, or the pleadings in the civil case, (thanks Brazos Co.)... Chavis left for a new position on 12/30 and began recruiting immediately, but was not officially hired and did not begin receiving pay from aTm until February, after the 30 day notice with LSU had expired.

What's hilarious is that 1) Alleva allowed the situation to deteriorate to the point where Chavis felt this move was in his best interest, 2) Alleva apparently continued to pay a coach that was no longer affiliated with the University for a month and a half, and 3) LSU did pretty much the same thing with Ed Orgeron by waiting until the day after the recruiting dead period to announce his hire..

This case is a waste of TAF funding, an example in incompetence of LSU's AD, a bullshite move on Chavis's part for not even informing his players of the developments (See Tre White and Jamal Adams quotes on Page 5), and a way for a team who hasn't beaten LSU in 4 tries to somehow stay relevant.

Oh, and this...

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Texas A&M recently paid $300,000 simply for a new grass football surface at Kyle Field.


This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 10:36 am
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:37 am to
:kige:
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40806 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:37 am to
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I will admit LSU's talent made Chavis when y'all admit this case has a small chance of success for LSU.


So the collective aggy thought is not only was Chavis "volunteering" for A&M while he was under contract with LSU, but also that it's totally legal?

And LSU has a small chance of winning how? The coward clearly violated his contract.
Posted by LegacyAggie
Member since Sep 2011
691 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:41 am to
Let this be a lesson to my fellow ags. Don't date lewsiana women. They will act just like the LSU posters here do.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:44 am to
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And LSU has a small chance of winning how?


Read what chilge1 wrote. Unless discovery finds a Chavis resignation letter dated in January all that matters is when he went on A&M's payroll. What he did on his vacation might not have made his boss happy, but what legally matters is when he became an A&M employee and when he legally resigned.

A buyout is violated when another program hires you, and not when you become a shitty employee.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:44 am to
Your rational post will not be received well, but kudos for trying
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:49 am to
I actually like that chilge1 tried to get in an A&M dig to balance things at the end, but he is right. We hired the LSU DC for a reason. We sell it as "Sumlin likes to hire guys that beat him," but that is sidestepping whose logo he was wearing during those beatings.

We can't beat LSU on the field, their coaching and talent was strong. The AD was the weakness, so we struck there. Even if Chavis doesn't work out any momentum where we can play our resource advantage over their talent advantage is worth gaining.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 10:51 am
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:51 am to
I'm not an attorney, but I've been around enough contract disputes to know that they're always dirty... and that while what Chavis did speaks to his character, it in no way jeopardizes the integrity of his contract. I promise you that the aTm legal team was provided a copy of Chavis's LSU contract to ensure that it wouldn't be violated by his and/or Sumlim's actions.

This screams settlement to me, however, if the attorneys are not so inclined, a federal judge is going to admonish both parties for wasting his time before throwing the case out, whether by dismissal or remanding it.

So can we now ask questions that matter, like, will the settlement offer include aTm lending their defensive players to LSU for live contact drills?

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51553 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:53 am to
You're assuming there isn't language in Chavis's contract that prevents him from aiding another university while he's under the employ of the LSU. If that's the case it doesn't matter if it was his free time or not because it's still a breach of contract.

If there isn't such language in his contract then Alleva is wasting everyone's time. It would also be entirely his fault that it played out this way.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 10:56 am
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19138 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:54 am to
HAVE YOU SEEN THE CHAVIS DRILL? These guys are going to be brutal on D. Not only did Chief teach these little fairies to tackle week 1 of spring practice, but now they're learning press coverage! #DBU
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Even if Chavis doesn't work out any momentum where we can play our resource advantage over their talent advantage is worth gaining.


And yet LSU parlayed the coaching transition into an even greater talent advantage
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:01 am to
When the father of the #1 recruit in the 2017 class was ecstatic over the Steele hire/Chavis departure..I was good to go
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:06 am to
I think it is up to Chavis. We settle if he wants to settle. All the extra claims that were brought forth shows he wants to fight. He wants to make the LSU AD look bad. Its personal.

All this costs us are legal fees, and thanks to JFF that budget got jacked up anyway. Johnny leaving early freed up at least a lawyer or two.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:07 am to
For now sure, this is about the long game.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:08 am to
quote:

When the father of the #1 recruit in the 2017 class was ecstatic over the Steele hire/Chavis departure..I was good to go


Yeah, because you were really on the fence about it before that
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:10 am to
He is simply an impartial and independent thinker Tbird.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19138 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:17 am to
I, as many other LSU fans have been on the fence with Chavis for years. His lackluster recruiting effort and poor technical coaching were masked by his "fear factor" and of course, DBU.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:20 am to
quote:

I think it is up to Chavis. We settle if he wants to settle.


I don't know that it's up to aTm one way or the other. Unless there's some sort of relationship between Bill Youngkin, a private attorney, and the aTm legal staff... aTm is allowing Chavis to fight this battle on his own and then they'll pay if they're ordered to pay, much like an insurance company.

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For now sure, this is about the loooooooooooooooong game.


Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:21 am to
:rivalry:
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