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Posted on 2/11/20 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 2:31 pm to
There you go. Remember everyone saying he had to beat Bama last year or he would be on hot seat. Burrow saved him.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 2:33 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:06 pm to
This

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Ed has been really good a beating teams he is suppose to win. Up until last year he struggled getting the big win.


Is not this

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There you go. Remember everyone saying he had to beat Bama last year or he would be on hot seat. Burrow saved him.

Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:22 pm to
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I don't remember anyone complaining about the offense in 2018 besides the Bama game.


I complained...a lot! lol

It was nothing more than LM offense, run out of spread. Same running plays...same playaction...same deep outside the hash passing tree with 1-2 recievers. That's why A1 ate that arse and CEO knew he had to change and SE wasn't the answer to make that change. Hell, SE has even admitted this.

But certain LSU fans don't want to admit that. "he set records"...yea, he set records against the sisters of the poor and got stuffed against better competition.

Brady completely changed the offense and had complete control of it...if you want to believe he only called 10% and goaline to the 12yd line, be my guest! But LSU didn't offer him that big contract for only doing that.

Am I excited about SL, no...Im also not disappointed. I cant really judge a man off of his time at Dallas lol. I'm just kinda...MEH about it.

Posted by AHM21
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:24 pm to
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Am I excited about SL, no...Im also not disappointed. I cant really judge a man off of his time at Dallas lol. I'm just kinda...MEH about it.


Honest, fair and well said.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:24 pm to
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Brady completely changed the offense and had complete control of it...if you want to believe he only called 10% and goaline to the 12yd line, be my guest!


Why would O, E, and Brady all lie about it?

If Brady could handle it all, why not just name him OC and let E coach positions like he wanted to do?
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 3:28 pm
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:32 pm to
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Why would O, E, and Brady all lie about it?



Honestly, I'd say to not beat up SE, bc SE couldn't get it done. I believe 2019 was a transition year to switch Brady to fulltime OC in 2020. Plenty of interviews suggesting that.

again, you can go back to many interviews and O said Brady was calling majority of plays, SE did the heavy lifting Sunday-Friday and would suggest Tempo. Plenty of interviews during September and oct to confirm this.

But once again, if he was only calling 10%...why the big contract?

Like I said earlier, if you want to believe that, be my guest. I'm just pointing out the CONTRACT, Interviews stating he was calling majority, Video of him calling plays NON-STOP in press box, and some how landed an NFL OC gig by calling just 10% of plays lol.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:37 pm to
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again, you can go back to many interviews and O said Brady was calling majority of plays,


I've literally never seen/heard O say that. Link?

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But once again, if he was only calling 10%...why the big contract? 


He was basically making the same as E, like you said, they were transitioning him into the OC role.

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some how landed an NFL OC gig by calling just 10% of plays lol.



Kliff Kingsbury landed a NFL head coaching gig after bombing at Texas Tech. Young, offensive guys are all the rage right now, anyone will take a risk.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 3:40 pm
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:45 pm to
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again, you can go back to many interviews and O said Brady was calling majority of plays, SE did the heavy lifting Sunday-Friday and would suggest Tempo. Plenty of interviews during September and oct to confirm this.




No, you can't.
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:49 pm to
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I've literally never seen/heard O say that. Link?


From an article end of September.

Q. Ed, are there any times when Joe Brady is the one calling down the plays, or is he still strictly in a consulting role the whole time, the whole game?
ED ORGERON: No, he calls the plays. Steve lets him call the plays.

Q. And listening on the headset and being part of that process, how do you feel it's worked so far?
ED ORGERON: All good.

Q. The results seem good. I'm just wondering.
ED ORGERON: It works out perfect. Steve Ensminger has no ego. He didn't want any credit. And believe me, he is the architect of everything, man. He gets it done. He's the general in there. But you know what, a good general is going to let smart people do some stuff, and Joe Brady is talented, smart. When it comes time to call the play, Steve lets him call it. He makes that decision, and it worked out fine.


It's from a post I had on the CC board, I will link this article and others. and yes, I concede there are plenty stating he only called 10%. I'm just giving my opinion by reading between the tea leaves and seeing the extreme differences in offenses. I'm not saying he didn't do the majority of heavy lifting Sunday-Friday.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:54 pm to
This was later that week:

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Earlier this week, Ed Orgeron said that new passing game coordinator Joe Brady is calling the offensive plays but expanded on the play-calling hierarchy during his radio show on Wednesday night. 

According to Orgeron, Brady is making some of the calls but offensive coordinator Steve Ensminger is calling 90-percent of the plays. He added that Ensminger and Brady are both on the headset and that Ensminger has the final say. 
Posted by AHM21
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:55 pm to
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ED ORGERON: No, he calls the plays. Steve lets him call the plays.



Interesting!

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According to Orgeron, Brady is making some of the calls but offensive coordinator Steve Ensminger is calling 90-percent of the plays. He added that Ensminger and Brady are both on the headset and that Ensminger has the final say.


Ed did an excellent job of back tracking and helping Steve out.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 3:56 pm
Posted by 0
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:58 pm to
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Ed did an excellent job of back tracking and helping Steve out.



E went Into a good bit detail before the championship game. Brady did call plays, particularly in the redzone, but E was calling the bulk of it.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:59 pm to
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Ed did an excellent job of back tracking and helping Steve out.


I dont see why everyone thinks O is afraid to hurt Steve's feelings.

Its common knowledge that E wasnt thrilled to be named OC.

There was certainly no problem with E's feelings when they brought in Matt Canada instead of E becoming the permanent OC in 2017.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 3:59 pm
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:04 pm to
Ok, like I said earlier, if you think it was truly 90% SE, be my guest.

Once again, look at the contract LSU offered JB. Read between the tea leaves on these articles.
Look at game footage of Brady non-stop calling plays


Also, do you think JB "concept", calling 10% of plays and just making some suggestions mid game, made SE a complete offensive F'n GURU?

Look, I'm not gonna convince you and you're not gonna convince me, and that's perfectly fine. I'll agree to disagree with you.

I think Se/SL will be just fine calling the offense...there will be a step back bc it was such a magical year and ppl need to pump the brakes when next year doesn't live up to the hype of last year.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:07 pm to
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Once again, look at the contract LSU offered JB


What contract did they offer him?

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Look at game footage of Brady non-stop calling plays 


He was in charge of communication to the sideline, in most of those shots he's talking, not necessarily calling plays.

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Also, do you think JB "concept", calling 10% of plays and just making some suggestions mid game, made SE a complete offensive F'n GURU? 



I think it was more about the players LSU had than someone being a "guru". If you watch 2018 vs 2019 you can clearly see better receiver play, much more chemistry, and way better decisions from Burrow.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31128 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:19 pm to
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I don't remember anyone complaining about the offense in 2018 besides the Bama game.
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I complained...a lot! lol

It was nothing more than LM offense, run out of spread. Same running plays...same playaction...same deep outside the hash passing tree with 1-2 recievers. That's why A1 ate that arse and CEO knew he had to change and SE wasn't the answer to make that change. Hell, SE has even admitted this.

But certain LSU fans don't want to admit that. "he set records"...yea, he set records against the sisters of the poor and got stuffed against better competition.

Brady completely changed the offense and had complete control of it...if you want to believe he only called 10% and goaline to the 12yd line, be my guest! But LSU didn't offer him that big contract for only doing that.

Am I excited about SL, no...Im also not disappointed. I cant really judge a man off of his time at Dallas lol. I'm just kinda...MEH about it.
Hey Stew, you just turned the etoufee upside down in this joint.

Your LSU comrades have been dueling to the death with Mr.AUTiger all day about Brady's diminished control of LSU's offense - Steve Ensminger controlled the entire O and Joe offered a few change of pace play calls that's IT.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47284 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:21 pm to
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teve Ensminger controlled the entire O and Joe offered a few change of pace play calls that's IT.




Literally no one said this.
Posted by cajunguy
In your house, LA
Member since Jan 2016
2471 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:23 pm to
It is? I didn't know what to think of the hire. I didn't know what to think of the Brady hire either but what I liked about Brady was he was young is all I knew when he came in. This Linehan guy is older and I know nothing about him
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:24 pm to
[quote]Like I said earlier, if you want to believe that, be my guest. I'm just pointing out the CONTRACT, Interviews stating he was calling majority, [b]:
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 4:27 pm
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:30 pm to
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What contract did they offer him?


Really???

contract agreement

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He was in charge of communication to the sideline


Correct, always talking with JB between series.

We just gonna ignore him calling plays (talking) while offense was on the field and SE was spitting in a cup?

I'm not gonna respond to the other ignorant or intellectual dishonesty in the rest of your post.

Have a great day

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