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LSU fans, do you want Cam Thomas back next year?
Posted on 3/11/21 at 8:42 am
Posted on 3/11/21 at 8:42 am
This is a serious question. I've seen some people on TigerRant say that Cam Thomas brings the team down and that the team plays better without him.
LSU fans on the SECRant, do you want him back next year? Personally, I would, but only if he took half as many shots as he did this year. It would drive me crazy if I was an LSU fan.
LSU fans on the SECRant, do you want him back next year? Personally, I would, but only if he took half as many shots as he did this year. It would drive me crazy if I was an LSU fan.
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 8:45 am to diddlydawg7
Yes, I'm sure like any freshmen his understanding of a good shot and bad shot would improve dramatically. I would love to see the transformation he would make but we all know he is going pro.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 8:45 am to diddlydawg7
Anyone who averages what 28 points per game absolutely
Posted on 3/11/21 at 8:48 am to diddlydawg7
His field goal percentage has gone up big time the last part of the SEC season. He would be absolutely ridiculous next year were he to come back. Think 27 a game on 48-50 percent shooting.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 8:53 am to diddlydawg7
Also he is the type of guy you want in tournament play. Especially if you are overmatched as a team. Let’s say LSU ends up meeting a 1 or 2 seed in the big dance. We will probably lose anyway, but having a guy with the potential to score like Thomas is going to give you that puncher’s chance.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 8:55 am to diddlydawg7
Sure but he aint coming back
Posted on 3/11/21 at 8:58 am to LSUsince74
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Anyone who averages what 28 points per game absolutely
Lol. You still don't understand the concept of efficient scoring.
He takes 17 attempts per game. That's #5 in the country and #1 in Power 6 conferences. And that doesn’t even include all the times he is fouled. All 5 guys who shoot as much as Cam Thomas average 20+ PPG.
Cam averages 38 FG% and 25% from 3 against Top 100 teams. There are probably 10 guys in the SEC who could average 28 PPG if they took 17 shots per game.
This post was edited on 3/11/21 at 9:04 am
Posted on 3/11/21 at 9:03 am to diddlydawg7
To not include the ridiculous amount of times he gets to the free throw line and his efficiency there, is to not tell the whole story. Also he is a freshman, he would be much improved next season. Which is why he won’t be back. Even this year the last 4-5 games in the SEC he has been much more efficient.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 9:26 am to sabes que
You're forgetting one thing Dog.... the other team knows he's going to shoot. And he still averages 22 pts. per game or whatever it is. Want him back.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 9:31 am to diddlydawg7
He’s a lot of empty stats
Posted on 3/11/21 at 9:33 am to tiger81
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You're forgetting one thing Dog.... the other team knows he's going to shoot.
Which is exactly why he has a terrible shooting percentage.
Take 33% of Thomas's opportunities and spread them to other players and LSU is a much much tougher team to beat.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 9:34 am to diddlydawg7
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He takes 17 attempts per game. That's #5 in the country and #1 in Power 6 conferences. And that doesn’t even include all the times he is fouled. All 5 guys who shoot as much as Cam Thomas average 20+ PPG.
Cam averages 38 FG% and 25% from 3 against Top 100 teams. There are probably 10 guys in the SEC who could average 28 PPG if they took 17 shots per game.
I'd take him back. His FG% and shot selection would improve with an offseason of film study. His ability to draw foul's is already one of the best in the country as well as FT%
This post was edited on 3/11/21 at 9:35 am
Posted on 3/11/21 at 9:38 am to diddlydawg7
Do you think Georgia’s Camara is an efficient scorer? He shoots 48.5 percent from the field, yet he averages 1.30 points per field goal attempt and Thomas averages 1.36. And yalls leading scorer shoots worse even percentage wise than Thomas from the field, 3 pt line and free throw line. Do you want those guys back?
Posted on 3/11/21 at 9:39 am to Adam4LSU
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I'd take him back. His FG% and shot selection would improve with an offseason of film study. His ability to draw foul's is already one of the best in the country as well as FT%
Yes. This is a good reason to want him back. Not because of how many points he scores.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 9:40 am to diddlydawg7
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And that doesn’t even include all the times he is fouled.
But he’s an Elite FT shooter.
So, That’s extremely efficient.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 9:47 am to tiger81
quote:This is a good point as well, especially considering the amount of college games that come down to the last 1-2 minutes. Let’s say there is 20 seconds left, and someone has to take a difficult shot, Thomas shoots almost exclusively shots that have an extremely high level of difficulty, so his chances of making that difficult shot late are about the same as any other time. Now compare that to a guy who just plays smart and takes good shots, if said player is forced to shoot a tough shot late, he may be a 50 percent shooter but with the degree of difficulty that would drop considerably.
the other teams know he is going to shoot
Posted on 3/11/21 at 9:50 am to sabes que
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Do you think Georgia’s Camara is an efficient scorer? He shoots 48.5 percent from the field, yet he averages 1.30 points per field goal attempt and Thomas averages 1.36. And yalls leading scorer shoots worse even percentage wise than Thomas from the field, 3 pt line and free throw line. Do you want those guys back?
What a terrible comparison. Camara isn't an efficient scorer, but doesn't take nearly as many shots as Thomas. Same with Wheeler.
And the main thing you're leaving out is that Wheeler and Camara contribute in ways other than scoring.
Assists per Game
Wheeler- 7.2
Camara- 1.6
Thomas- 1.4
Rebounds per Game
Camara- 7.6
Wheeler- 3.9
Thomas- 3.4
Steals per Game
Wheeler- 1.9
Camara- 1.2
Thomas- 0.8
None of these 3 players are efficient scorers. But Wheeler is the best passer in the SEC, and Camara is one of the top rebounders. Not to mention the fact that they are both way better defensively than Thomas.
Thomas has no contribution whatsoever outside of scoring. I mean, he's 6-4 and averages less rebounds per game than 5-8 Sahvir Wheeler. That's ridiculous.
Camara plays the 5 for us and he averages more assists than Thomas, who plays the 2.
It's ok to be an inefficient scorer, but scoring can't be your only contribution.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 9:53 am to diddlydawg7
So yalls 3 top scorers are all inefficient scorers? Bc Thomas averages more points per attempt than all of them. Seems like you have quite the high bar on what efficient is.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 9:57 am to sabes que
That's what I have been saying. If anyone on here is interested in what kind of shots he takes late in the shot clock and how tough they are,just go looks at his highlights from this year.
I believe most players would shoot half of what percentage he shoots ,with those same shots.
Not to mention, his efficiency a scorer has sky rocketed the last month of the season. Look at his numbers the last 5 or so games and you will see. That's not counting him getting to the line more then any sec player and shooting a ridiculous 90 or so percent from the line.
So yeah ,I'd love him back. We would be sub 500 in conference without him and definitely would have lost to mizzou this past game.
I dont know who else who shoots a fade away jumper at the percentage he does .
I believe most players would shoot half of what percentage he shoots ,with those same shots.
Not to mention, his efficiency a scorer has sky rocketed the last month of the season. Look at his numbers the last 5 or so games and you will see. That's not counting him getting to the line more then any sec player and shooting a ridiculous 90 or so percent from the line.
So yeah ,I'd love him back. We would be sub 500 in conference without him and definitely would have lost to mizzou this past game.
I dont know who else who shoots a fade away jumper at the percentage he does .
Posted on 3/11/21 at 9:59 am to diddlydawg7
You said Thomas was an inefficient scorer, I am showing you that he is more efficient than yalls top scorers even though he shoots way more and way more difficult shots. And fair enough about him not contributing much in other ways, he has a role and he fills it. Also, next year Thomas will be vastly improved wherever he is playing, so to even ask if we want him back is just ridiculous.
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