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re: LSU - GEORGIA - What has changed from last year

Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:46 pm to
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LSU's offense is significantly better (obviously) and Georgia's run defense is as good as it has ever been.


Oh good. LSU is the #2 pass offense in the country.


Tigah's by 24.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:52 pm to
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You've obviously not watched a minute of UGA football this season. Anyone who has watched the Dawg defense play instantly know that they're special, regardless of opponent. They're playing like prime Bama defenses.


I watched enough games to know the opponent you're playing matters. What UGA is doing to Kentucky and Arkansas St. doesn't mean shite. LSU held A&M to a lower point total and less yards than UGA. Does that means LSU's defense is better than UGA's? Is that how this works?

Your offense will have to score and it hasn't done it all season. Do you honestly think UGA will stop LSU's offense more times than UGA's offense will sputter?
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:15 pm to
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The tickets are split evenly, are they not?

They are not. The schools get relatively small allotments.



Each school gets the same allotment. It is the secondary market where ticket vendors in Atlanta will give UGA the additional fans to have a home field advantage.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:20 pm to
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That's 4 for UGA and 4


You are an idiot.

Based upon points allowed, UGA was better in 5 of 8.
If you do cumulative points, UGA is also better.

Yards per game is also 5 of 8 in UGAs favor at 355 yards fewer overall.

The point is that your "UGA hasn't played anyone" is debunked as pointless because we've played 8 common opponents and we are better.
In terms of a ranking, it takes 1 point or 1 yard better to be top in the SEC.

It is sad that I have to explain how rankings work.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:29 pm to
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It is the secondary market where ticket vendors in Atlanta will give UGA the additional fans to have a home field advantage.


It isnt given when it is paid for.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:51 pm to
Did I say that? Each school gets an allotment. LSU fans put in their ticket request through the LSU ticket office and who gets tickets buys them. Same for UGA. If tickets are being sold in Atlanta through vendors, given proximity and just informational advantages knowing who is selling what, UGA fans are going to be able to "Buy" more of those secondary market tickets. that was the only point I was making. At no time did I suggest UGA fans were going to be "given anything."
Posted by Midurban
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
35 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:57 pm to
If y’all run the ball like y’all are capable of, and keep our Offense off the field then I think y’all have a descent shot. But I’m sure u know that y’all can’t try and have a shootout with us. That would give us a huge advantage. I’m not saying our team doesn’t want to win this game, but when you’re playing, like Georgia is, to keep your championship hopes alive. I believe y’all have a lil advantage in that aspect of the game. Cause win or lose we’re in the playoffs.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:58 pm to
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Did I say that?


quote:

ticket vendors in Atlanta will give UGA the additional fans 
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24389 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 2:20 pm to
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You are an idiot.

Based upon points allowed, UGA was better in 5 of 8.
If you do cumulative points, UGA is also better.

Yards per game is also 5 of 8 in UGAs favor at 355 yards fewer overall.

The point is that your "UGA hasn't played anyone" is debunked as pointless because we've played 8 common opponents and we are better.
In terms of a ranking, it takes 1 point or 1 yard better to be top in the SEC.

It is sad that I have to explain how rankings work.


Wait, you can't claim a game that you lost. Your defense couldn't stop South Carolina from beating you. GTFO with that. And its a total of 44yds per game to absolute shite competition.

Y'all have no clue what's about to happen to your defense in 4 days.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 2:23 pm to
Ok, I see that was a cryptic statement. It will give the advantage to UGA by virtue of UGA fans having better and quicker access to said vendors. So piss poor writing on my part the first time, my apologies for suggesting that UGA fans would be given anything. Not what I meant.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28336 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 2:24 pm to
The UGA defense is better than last year's unit. How much? It's hard to truly quantify because last year's group was by no means "awful" in their own right.

LSU's offense is significantly better than last year's group. As in it's not even the same offense as last year.

The game is at a neutral site that is more tilted to the crowd being in favor of UGA. Then again, there were a TON of UGA fans in Tiger Stadium last season. Certainly the crowd was very "pro-LSU", but far, FAR less than most games. The only problem is that UGA fans never really had much to get excited about as LSU led start to finish.

I don't think Kirby makes the same mistake in abandoning the running game. UGA was able to pound LSU. But by the time they figured it out LSU had grown the lead to a sizable margin. The one caveat here is that Swift won't be 100% (though I expect him to play hard) and there is no sledgehammer back like Holyfield. Even if they stick with the run can they have the same success they had last season? Maybe. Because....

LSU doesn't have Devin White. LSU's LB's have been up and down this year, and prone to get lost on misdirection/cut backs. White was as instinctive a MLB has LSU has had in a long time.

But UGA doesn't have Baker either. Much of LSU's offense is based on formationing you in to mismatches and allowing Burrow to find them and take advantage. Baker was never a mismatch. Now, even though UGA has some really good DB's again, I think LSU feels their WR's are better.

One intangible is that this is UGA's 3rd straight SECCG. In the previous two they have more than answered the bell and there is no reason to think they won't be able to again.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 2:28 pm to
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Wait, you can't claim a game that you lost.


The claim is about a better defense.
Nothing to do with win/loss. You seem stupid for jumping into the middle of a discussion and not knowing what it is about.

And Scar scored 10 points in regulation and 3 points in double overtime on the defense. The defense did great that game.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24389 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 2:29 pm to
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The claim is about a better defense.
Nothing to do with win/loss. You seem stupid for jumping into the middle of a discussion and not knowing what it is about.

And Scar scored 10 points in regulation and 3 points in double overtime on the defense. The defense did great that game.


Buuuuuuuuuuut not quite good enough.


eta: And if South Carolina, A&M, Kentucky, Notre Dame and Florida can hold UGA to 20-something points what do you think LSU's defense is going to do? LSU wins this thing by 2 TDs at least. UGA has been playing with fool's gold on defense all year long.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 2:32 pm
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3396 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 2:30 pm to
This year it is a home game for Georgia.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

The UGA defense is better than last year's unit. How much? It's hard to truly quantify because last year's group was by no means "awful" in their own right.

LSU's offense is significantly better than last year's group. As in it's not even the same offense as last year.

The game is at a neutral site that is more tilted to the crowd being in favor of UGA. Then again, there were a TON of UGA fans in Tiger Stadium last season. Certainly the crowd was very "pro-LSU", but far, FAR less than most games. The only problem is that UGA fans never really had much to get excited about as LSU led start to finish.

I don't think Kirby makes the same mistake in abandoning the running game. UGA was able to pound LSU. But by the time they figured it out LSU had grown the lead to a sizable margin. The one caveat here is that Swift won't be 100% (though I expect him to play hard) and there is no sledgehammer back like Holyfield. Even if they stick with the run can they have the same success they had last season? Maybe. Because....

LSU doesn't have Devin White. LSU's LB's have been up and down this year, and prone to get lost on misdirection/cut backs. White was as instinctive a MLB has LSU has had in a long time.

But UGA doesn't have Baker either. Much of LSU's offense is based on formationing you in to mismatches and allowing Burrow to find them and take advantage. Baker was never a mismatch. Now, even though UGA has some really good DB's again, I think LSU feels their WR's are better.

One intangible is that this is UGA's 3rd straight SECCG. In the previous two they have more than answered the bell and there is no reason to think they won't be able to again.


Good post.

I added all of the players that UGA is relying on for significant roles or plays that were not in the game last year.

We have 3 DL (Jordan Davis, Devonte Wyatt, and Travon Walker) 3 OLB (Aziz Ojulari, Nolan Smith Jr. and Jermaine Johnson) 3 ILB/Spies (Nakobe Dean, Quay Walker, Adam Anderson) and 4 DBs (Eric Stokes, Tyreke Stevenson, Divaad Wilson, and DJ Daniel) that weren't on the field last season.

And that doesn't take into account returning players who are playing better (either due to experience or better talent alongside them) such as JR Reed, Lecounte, Tyler Clark, Tae Crowder, and Monty Rice. Many of them are up for postseason awards.

That said... any improvement for UGA means nothing to LSU. You are a different team as well.
Posted by molardog1
Member since Dec 2017
1749 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:41 pm to
Like someone else said we are playing like a prime Alabama defense. Which is what one would expect from a defense loaded with 5 stars.

LSU about to get sloooooooowed down.
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