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Lots of chatter that Howland will retire at State end of season
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:48 pm
Team just can't pull off the big win. Dropped another chance last night.
LSU and Alabama coming up, then a run of five games that they should be favored in before ending the season with Auburn and A&M. They have a decent shot at the NCAA Tournament, but really need to win one of the three they shouldn't.
Howland leaves State in a much better situation that he found it. State's basketball history isn't terrible and there is a commitment for a major renovation of the Hump. Names being mentioned:
Furman coach Bob Richey
North Texas coach Grant McCasland
New Mexico State coach Chris Jans
LSU assistant Bill Armstrong
Washington State coach Kyle Smith
Former Arizona coach Sean Miller
LSU and Alabama coming up, then a run of five games that they should be favored in before ending the season with Auburn and A&M. They have a decent shot at the NCAA Tournament, but really need to win one of the three they shouldn't.
Howland leaves State in a much better situation that he found it. State's basketball history isn't terrible and there is a commitment for a major renovation of the Hump. Names being mentioned:
Furman coach Bob Richey
North Texas coach Grant McCasland
New Mexico State coach Chris Jans
LSU assistant Bill Armstrong
Washington State coach Kyle Smith
Former Arizona coach Sean Miller
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 1:17 pm to anc
Good. If he can't make the tourney with the talent on this team, he needs to go.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 1:23 pm to anc
Thank goodness. The game has passed him by. 7 years in Starkville, 1 NCAA tournament appearances, zero NCAA tournament wins and getting paid over 2 million per year.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 2:22 pm to anc
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Former Arizona coach Sean Miller
Posted on 2/10/22 at 2:25 pm to anc
His offense is archaic and pretty boring.
Our number of missed free throws is usually more than the number of points we lose the game by.
Our number of missed free throws is usually more than the number of points we lose the game by.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 2:28 pm to anc
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Former Arizona coach Sean Miller
if he was truly interested, it’d be hard not to go in that direction.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 2:45 pm to boston vol
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if he was truly interested, it’d be hard not to go in that direction.
Agreed.
If we go mid-major, Miller at Furman will be a hot name. He's picked off some big boys while at Furman and his teams always look good. No NCAA Tournament appearances though.
Who knows. We'll be able to hire a decent coach this time around. Stansbury left the program in a rough place and Ray just decimated it. It was pure luck we were able to hire someone with Howland's experience to at least get the ship in the right ocean.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 2:52 pm to anc
Sean Miller will choose us over Mississippi State. We actually care about basketball. Many people say we're a sleeping giant. State just can't compete with our arena, facilities, city, basketball loving fan base and close proximity to good basketball cruits.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 2:53 pm to anc
I appreciate the work Howland did to get us back to respectable but we need a fresh energetic face to take the next step
Posted on 2/10/22 at 3:26 pm to deltaland
I've heard there's an alum coaching up north that may be open to the job
Posted on 2/10/22 at 3:27 pm to anc
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Furman coach Bob Richey
This is who I would go after, watched his team the other night. He is night and day on the sidelines when compared to Howland.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 3:47 pm to anc
I am a Big Ben Howland fan and he has done a great job of recruiting. But we have just not been able to get over the “Hump” (no pun intended). The 2020 team was a NCAA team but obviously did not get to participate so in reality he has had Two NCAA teams.
I don’t really count his first two years because his first team (2016) was a Senior(6 se laden Ray team that played over their heads but were still just average. Then in 2017, it was a brand new team.
So in fairness, I think from 2018 to the present is what Howland should be judged by.
We have two NIT teams (one went to the finals and one to the semifinals), one NCAA team (one and done-underachieved), one NCAA team that did not get to participate. And the jury is out on this team but it is trending the wrong way right now.
So his resume over the last five years is solid even if we feel he has underachieved based on the talent we have had.
So I am not ready to pull the plug on the man just yet. Let this season finish out and we will see what happens. If he retires on his volition, then that is fine but I hope it will be his decision and only his decision.
I don’t really count his first two years because his first team (2016) was a Senior(6 se laden Ray team that played over their heads but were still just average. Then in 2017, it was a brand new team.
So in fairness, I think from 2018 to the present is what Howland should be judged by.
We have two NIT teams (one went to the finals and one to the semifinals), one NCAA team (one and done-underachieved), one NCAA team that did not get to participate. And the jury is out on this team but it is trending the wrong way right now.
So his resume over the last five years is solid even if we feel he has underachieved based on the talent we have had.
So I am not ready to pull the plug on the man just yet. Let this season finish out and we will see what happens. If he retires on his volition, then that is fine but I hope it will be his decision and only his decision.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 4:27 pm to Godawgs4
Howland is like Mullen was at State in football.
Very few exciting upsets of top teams but plays them close enough to frustrate you, and beats the crap teams, and beats some decent teams in between. We won’t ever be terrible under him but you’re not likely to make a magical run to a championship
Very few exciting upsets of top teams but plays them close enough to frustrate you, and beats the crap teams, and beats some decent teams in between. We won’t ever be terrible under him but you’re not likely to make a magical run to a championship
Posted on 2/10/22 at 4:59 pm to anc
Should bring back Rick Stansbury
Posted on 2/10/22 at 5:01 pm to anc
He’s like Mike Anderson at Arkansas. You keep him until you feel like you’re in a good situation to definitively upgrade your head coach. I wouldn’t dump him just to bring in a run of the mill mid major coach like Kermit Davis.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 5:10 pm to anc
quote:a pretty long shot at this point. They really needed that win last night to stay on the bubble.
They have a decent shot at the NCAA Tournament
Posted on 2/10/22 at 5:11 pm to Gcockboi
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Sean Miller will choose us over Mississippi State.
Sean Miller will choose Pitt over both Carolina and State
Also he’s still under NCAA investigation so might be untouchable
Posted on 2/10/22 at 5:13 pm to Road to 16
McCasland should get a long look. He's doing great at UNT.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 5:16 pm to kywildcatfanone
Love Coach Stans and what he meant to State but that ship sailed 10 years ago.
The disappointing thing about Howland’s teams is that we don’t have the mental toughness of Richard Williams teams or Stansbury teams (before 2010). Those teams were mentally tough and had grit. Now obviously they did not win every game but they were capable of and did win games on the road (and at home) against really good teams. Unfortunately under Howland we just have not done that yet to date.
Having said that, I still think he is a tremendous coach but that has been the stumbling block for our teams over the last four-five years. Still time this year to over come some of that but right now it appears to be an uphill climb.
We will see what happens.
The disappointing thing about Howland’s teams is that we don’t have the mental toughness of Richard Williams teams or Stansbury teams (before 2010). Those teams were mentally tough and had grit. Now obviously they did not win every game but they were capable of and did win games on the road (and at home) against really good teams. Unfortunately under Howland we just have not done that yet to date.
Having said that, I still think he is a tremendous coach but that has been the stumbling block for our teams over the last four-five years. Still time this year to over come some of that but right now it appears to be an uphill climb.
We will see what happens.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 5:19 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
The Hump renovation.
Mississippi State signed off on a 50-million dollar renovation on Humphrey Coliseum, so that will help some with a new coach.
Mississippi State signed off on a 50-million dollar renovation on Humphrey Coliseum, so that will help some with a new coach.
This post was edited on 2/10/22 at 5:22 pm
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