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Let's talk about Cam Thomas

Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:21 am
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:21 am
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what's so great about him. I mean sure, he looked pretty good against Nicholls and SIU Edwardsville, but not so great against SEC opponents.

He's a nice little player for a freshman, but it just seems to me like he's a high volume inefficient shooter. He also flops a lot on stupid shots to get to the FT line. Reminds me of Trae Young, but a much worse shooter, passer, and rebounder.

SEC Stats
FG: 37.3%
3 PT: 23.6%
REB: 2.6
AST: 1.2

Not to mention the fact that KenPom says LSU has had the easiest conference schedule to this point. In fact, if you only include his stats vs KenPom top 100 teams, the dude just flat out sucks.

Stats against KenPom top 100

FG: 34.7%
3 PT: 17.6%
AST: 0.9
REB: 2.4


Are we really having SEC POTY discussions about a guy who shoots 17% from 3 against any team worth a shite? He averages more turnovers than assists, and almost more TOs than rebounds.

I'd go ahead and wager that there are 30 players in the SEC that could put up Thomas's numbers if they wanted to. All it takes is a guy who's a good FT shooter with coach and a team that is ok with them forcing up shots 30 times a game.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 10:25 am
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44346 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:24 am to
LSU would have lost to Aggy the other night if Aggy had an offense that could punch its way out of a wet paper bag. In the final 4 or 5 minutes of that game he was throwing up yolo 3 after yolo 3 from well beyond the line with a defender on his hip. It was unreal. He didn't make a single one of them but got to the line once because he kicked his legs out to draw contact.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:27 am to
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LSU would have lost to Aggy the other night if Aggy had an offense that could punch its way out of a wet paper bag. In the final 4 or 5 minutes of that game he was throwing up yolo 3 after yolo 3 from well beyond the line with a defender on his hip. It was unreal. He didn't make a single one of them but got to


And Tuesday night was one of his good games.

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he kicked his legs out to draw contact.



This is exactly what I mean. He does it all the time. It's hilarious when he doesn't get the call and ends up airballing a shitty 3 because he was too busy trying to get a call than focusing on making the basket
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 10:27 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:29 am to
Ever since he had the injury a couple weeks ago he's been off from his jumpers, still able to get to rim/FT line well, but his jumpers have just been missing by way more than they have prior to that. I mean he's air mailed quite a few jumpers and that never happened prior to him rolling his ankle
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 10:30 am
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:30 am to
Not sure why I am responding to you with a serious reply, but here it goes.

Prior to his injury, he was the best shooter in the league. He is also good at drawing fouls and was like 95% from the line. Had he continued to play like that, he would have been a 1 and done.
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
27519 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:31 am to
quote:

Ever since he had the injury a couple weeks ago he's been off from his jumpers, still able to get to rim/FT line well, but his jumpers have just been missing by way more than they have prior to that




Before his injury against KenPom Top 100 teams
FG: 35.4%
3 PT: 17.3%

So, no not much difference.

The truth is he played decent against shitty teams and is god awful against good teams.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:33 am to
Seems strange that a Georgia fan would be randomly focused on an LSU player, but more power to you.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73466 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:34 am to
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Seems strange that a Georgia fan would be randomly focused on an LSU playe


Meet diddlydawg.
Posted by Lemonpuppy
Mississippi
Member since May 2020
2709 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:34 am to
Can’t discuss facts with LSU fans... I mean they had the best player in college basketball and couldn’t make the Tourne...

Wait
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73466 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:35 am to
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Can’t discuss facts with LSU fans... I mean they had the best player in college basketball and couldn’t make the Tourne...



Which LSU fans deny that? You do realize that occurred under a different coach and LSU fans wanted him fired, right?
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:35 am to
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Before his injury against KenPom Top 100 teams
FG: 35.4%
3 PT: 17.3%


You're basically leaving out most teams there and creating a pretty tiny sample size, he was 33% from 3 prior to injury and that's just 3's, he takes a lot of 2 jumpers as well. He is like 18% from 3 since the injury, he clearly hasn't bee nthe same coming from someone who has watched every game of his. He takes a very high jumper exploding off his feet and a rolled ankle has been tough for him to fight through with that. 33% to 18% is a huge drop just from 3.

It doesnt matter how close he's guarded, he can hit 3's regardless of who the opponent was. The ankle injury has really put a damper in his jumper game.
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:36 am to
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Prior to his injury, he was the best shooter in the league


Might've seemed that way against Sam Houston State, but no. Just no.

Here are the top 100 teams he played before his injury.

vs #24 Florida: 3/10 3 PT FG
vs #98 Georgia: 1/8 3 PT FG
vs #99 LA Tech: 0/3 3 PT FG
vs #62 Ole Miss: 0/1 3 PT FG

So, no, he was definitely not the best shooter in the SEC at any point this season.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:36 am to
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nice little player


One of the all time great rustling statements
Posted by Lemonpuppy
Mississippi
Member since May 2020
2709 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:37 am to
Maybe you’ll find the joke if you think about the OP
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:37 am to
Good player going through a shooting slump.

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Reminds me of Trae Young


Seems pretty good
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73466 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:38 am to
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Maybe you’ll find the joke if you think about the OP


Well, the OP is a joke, so there is that.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:39 am to
Every game I’ve watched he’s ended reaching a threshold where’s hurting his team more than helping by continue to ball hog. But people see lots of points and pleasure themselves to it.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 10:42 am
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
27519 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:40 am to
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You're basically leaving out most teams


Yes. I am leaving out his games against Nicholls, Sam Houston State, Southeaastern Louisiana. True indicators of how good a player is.

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he was 33% from 3 prior to injury


Everyone looks like worldbeaters before you reach the conference schedule.
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:41 am to
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Let's talk about Cam Thomas


why dont we........

quote:

talk about Georgia basketball




that would be waaaay more fun
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73466 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:42 am to
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Every game I’ve watched he’s ended up hurting his team more than helping


So, you have only seen LSU games since his injury.
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