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re: Leonard Fournette verses healthy Nick Chubb
Posted on 3/5/16 at 9:48 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Posted on 3/5/16 at 9:48 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Chubb sucked arse against Bama as well. Then Bamas second string came in and they got lazy up 20+ points and he got one big run
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Posted on 3/5/16 at 9:50 pm to lsupride87
But to answer the OPs question I have honestly know idea who is better. They are both freaks. But I would take the one without a surgically repaired knee. Which is the same thing the NFL will do
Posted on 3/5/16 at 9:59 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
quote:Probably the same reason LSU fans don't like Henry.
dont understand gumps blind hatred for a great back. Oh well, no accounting for dumbassery when it comes to gumps.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 10:01 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
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Because of a game against Bama? not the season? ok. You know we had other games, right?
What game meant the most to you Francis?
Posted on 3/5/16 at 10:12 pm to TideSaint
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What game meant the most to you Francis?
My name is not francis. They are both great backs. not sure how anyone could say one is hands down better than the other.
but you just keep right on roll tidin.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 10:13 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Probably the same reason LSU fans don't like Henry.
good answer, good answer. clap clap clap
Posted on 3/5/16 at 10:33 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
"Let's see probably the same reason LSU fans don't like Henry.....!!!!!"
Posted on 3/5/16 at 10:34 pm to Bama Eric
Chubb and it's not even close if he comes back at even 80%. Is this even a debate?
Posted on 3/5/16 at 11:35 pm to lsupride87
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Then Bamas second string came in and they got lazy up 20+ points and he got one big run
I have no idea why everyone keeps saying this. 8 out of Bama's 11 starters were in on Chubb's 83 yard run including Reuben Foster and Reggie Ragland. I'm not going to deny Chubb struggled (more o-line, and Bama's incredible defense) for most of the game, but I don't get why some people just dismiss his run as if it didn't happen.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 11:40 pm to hg
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and it isn't even close.
the most overused line on the rant.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 11:41 pm to Dawgsontop34
yeah that 83 yard did happen during the beat down.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 11:49 pm to Dawgsontop34
Even before the 83 yard run, Chubb had twice as many yards as Fournette vs Alabama. Alabama exposed the fact that Fournette is not great against legit defenses. He pads his stats against weak opposition.
Posted on 3/6/16 at 12:20 am to The_Joker
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For the full year they were both healthy, Chubb was easily the better RB. And his average for as far as he got in 2015 was over 8 YPC. I'll take Chubb every day and twice on Sundays. There's no quantifiable metric that goes in Fournette's favor and the downvotes from LSU fans will prove that
Fournette had the higher ypc when chubb was injured and had already out gained him by about 300 yards with nearly the same amount of carries. Chubb had a better freshman season of course. He wouldnt have kept up with Henry or Fournette this year. I'd also like to see what a full season against Missouri, Kentucky, South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, and Florida would do for LF's stats. He had 338 rushing and 3 tds vs SC and Florida alone last year. 378 rushing and receiving.
This post was edited on 3/6/16 at 12:45 am
Posted on 3/6/16 at 12:35 am to SofaKingTrill
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Fournette had the higher ypc when chubb was injured and had already out gained him by about 300 yards with nearly the same amount of carries
Chubb had 91 carries by October 4th. Fournette had 119. That's not a similar amount. I'm not denying how great Fournette is. I feel like I'm one of the most complimentary people of him on here, but I also think facts are important in making your case.
Posted on 3/6/16 at 12:36 am to Bama Eric
Both
Posted on 3/6/16 at 12:50 am to lsupride87
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Chubb sucked arse against Bama as well. Then Bamas second string came in and they got lazy up 20+ points and he got one big run
This is one of many lines of thinking that doesnt hold water in this discussion.
Here is LF's stat line for Bama
Car Yds YPC Lng TD
19 31 1.6 18 1
Throw out his long carry of 18 yards and hes 18 carries for 13 yards. thats a .722 YPC average.
Here is NC's stat line for Bama.
Car yds YPC Lng TD
20 146 7.3 83 1
Throw out his long of 83 and hes 19 for 63.
thats a 3.31 ypc.
Now...a few variables here:
1-Bama may very well have been tired of hearing about LF by the time that game rolled around and may have taken a special interest in shutting him down.
2-Chubb was at home and LF was @Bama.
Im not saying one is better than the other based on one game, and certainly neither of them shined against Bama.
What I will say is this: If we ARE using this game as the measuring stick, even throwing out Nicks long run and allowing LF to keep his long run...its still 3.3 ypc vs 1.6 on a similar number of touches. One sucked 51.5% less than the other if we allow the skew, and almost 79% less if we take the stat lines straight up.
TL/DR - Throw out Nick Chubb's long run against Bama and his stat line is STILL at least twice as productive as LF's.
This post was edited on 3/6/16 at 1:03 am
Posted on 3/6/16 at 12:56 am to DawgHolliday
Exactly
Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:02 am to Bama Eric
I think we will find out who everyone thinks is better by the 2017 NFL Draft. The one who gets drafted top 5 wins.
This post was edited on 3/6/16 at 1:02 am
Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:13 am to brlsu1988
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I think we will find out who everyone thinks is better by the 2017 NFL Draft. The one who gets drafted top 5 wins.
I think thats a convenient argument to make when one guys draft stock is already damaged by a surgically repaired knee. No telling how that pans out if both make it to the draft without sustaining serious injury. Also, there is the small matter of making it through 2016 injury free for both.
Heres to a healthy season for LF
Hes a quality young man and a hell of a football player and the same goes for Nick Chubb...I hope neither of them read this board. We are all a bunch of biased assholes here.
Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:56 am to Bama Eric
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Who do pick and why?
Who do?
You do.
Do what?
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