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re: Kyler 517 first place votes, Tua 299 first place votes

Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:14 pm to
Dude, the entire country except for Bama fans can see that Kyler is better. The only ones trying hard are Bama fans trying to convince everybody otherwise.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:14 pm to
It's retarded. He throws absolutely beautiful perfect passes with his arm. Players around you can't make you do that
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30930 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:15 pm to
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But imagine what Kyler could do to Oklahoma's defense if he could play with Bama's offense


Imagine what Einstein could do with a super computer and vanilla lattes!!!!
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:16 pm to
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Dude, the entire country except for Bama fans can see that Kyler is better. The only ones trying hard are Bama fans trying to convince everybody otherwise.
Dude, the entire world except for BowlJackson knows you're a clown
Posted by Jumbo_Gumbo
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2015
5691 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:17 pm to
I think a lot of voters looked at all the talent surrounding Tua. Oklahoma has good players, but Bama’s 1st and 2nd string are all studs on both sides of the ball. Also, Tua not playing whole games hurt his stats some. If he would have played more, he probably would have won.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:18 pm to
Great argument. You've done a lot to sway fence sitters to Tua's side.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20595 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:20 pm to
Probably about right.

My only problem with the vote is that Quinnen Williams didn't finish higher than 8th.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:23 pm to
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You've done a lot to sway fence sitters to Tua's side.
I don't know what gave you the impression that I cared to do that

Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15164 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:32 pm to
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I think a lot of voters looked at all the talent surrounding Tua. Oklahoma has good players, but Bama’s 1st and 2nd string are all studs on both sides of the ball. Also, Tua not playing whole games hurt his stats some. If he would have played more, he probably would have won.





You're not wrong, but it's not like Oklahoma is without talent. On top of that, Murray plays in a conference that is known for poor defense and big offensive numbers. So it works both way.

They were both equally deserving of the Heisman. No need to discredit either one.
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31793 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:34 pm to
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if this upsets Gump fans then it’s a win.
This moral victory is all yours, baw.
Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
10066 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:44 pm to
I don’t understand how you can legitimately try to make an argument for bamas talent and then ignore ou’s on the offensive end not to mention their coach is a damn offensive genius.
Posted by TouchdownAlabama
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
1748 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:47 pm to
Happy for Kyler Murray. Dude is an incredible athlete in both football and baseball. I’m not mad in the slightest that he won. All 3 finalists were humble and seem like great guys, and deserved to be there.
Posted by SignalSoldier
Member since Dec 2018
1 post
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:49 pm to
My question is how many Heisman Trophies do Big 12 garbage defenses produce for average Oklahoma quarterbacks before the voters realize that it is all a mirage?

I guess never....
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 9:54 pm
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:57 pm to
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I guess never


About the same time a Miss State player wins the Heisman, or any Miss State team in any sport wins a natty
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
1779 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 10:08 pm to
Oklahoma has a stacked offense too
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50621 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 10:19 pm to
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How much offense would Murray account for on Alabama vs OU?


Less than Tua. No way I'd trade.
Posted by Tiger2424
Member since Nov 2015
1203 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 10:49 pm to
Crap coach at A&M
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 11:07 pm to
It’s very simple to me. You can’t win a heisman and you can’t have your fricking arse kissed by every gump did for three months if you couldn’t win a championship without your backup bailing your crappy arse out. Period

Tua is lucky as hell that he never has to face the bama defense and Kyler is unlucky as hell he doesn’t get to face his own defense

This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 11:08 pm
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13364 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 11:12 pm to
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As pissed off as some of the Alabama defensive players seem to be on Twitter right now, he might not make it to the second half.
I'm sure Saban has a strategy in to cheap shot him or hurt him.
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15164 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 11:13 pm to
An auburn fan would know about cheap shots.
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