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re: "Kiffin will leave when Nick Saban says he can leave."

Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:41 pm to
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:41 pm to
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Orgeron has ALWAYS worked for Kiffin. How much do you think Kiffin is going to listen to him? In fact, he'll flat out buck Orgeron when he wants to. O won't have the leash on Kiffin and Kiffin will not hesitate to take advantage. There will be a huge division in the coaching staff, Orgeron will be bucked by Kiffin, other coaches will see it and lose respect for Orgeron and they will start doing their own things.

Hell, O's players are already telling him that they're gonna play when they damn well want to play. There probably wasn't a section on discipline in his little binder.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:44 pm to
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I am the Kevinator! Mobile born and Mobile bred, and when I'll die I'll be Mobile dead! Bam extraordinaire and occasional dirtneck, dropping intel on everyone who can stand it.


Thanks Vice. That made me smile
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71107 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:44 pm to
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How many other job offers did he have when he accepted the OC position at Alabama?

well he started working with Alabama in December, not really much time to even entertain other offers before Alabama hired him
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73226 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:45 pm to
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no one else would? he went from being a HC at USC to taking an OC job at Alabama. I don't exactly call that slumming, and highly doubt he would have been jobless otherwise



The revisionist history with Kiffin is amazing.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9829 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:46 pm to
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What does a bandwagon Alabama fan know about loyalty?


I graduated from UA in 2011, so I probably know more about it than you. Coonass.
Posted by Lsu19geaux94
Member since Oct 2015
1939 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:46 pm to
Sure then we can get Helfrich who might even be a better OC.
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:48 pm to
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well he started working with Alabama in December, not really much time to even entertain other offers before Alabama hired him

He was unemployed in September. Anyone could have hired him. Les could've hired him.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
55795 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:49 pm to
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Les could've hired him.


You don't know Les Miles
Posted by Lsu19geaux94
Member since Oct 2015
1939 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:50 pm to
Les never would've hired him. Kiffin doesn't have the fight or the want to be at LSU.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:50 pm to
Other than Saban telling him to gtfo, I don't see him leaving for anywhere else as a OC.

it'll be for a HC job only.
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
25035 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:50 pm to
Yeah, lost my mind for a sec.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:51 pm to
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I am the Kevinator! Mobile born and Mobile bred, and when I'll die I'll be Mobile dead! Bam extraordinaire and occasional dirtneck, dropping intel on everyone who can stand it.


Thanks Vice. That made me smile



I didn't know that, but I did recognize the homerism and I when I went to look for it, I started at al.com.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107911 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:51 pm to
He was a phenomenal OC at USC, turned around a horrible UT to take them to a bowl in his only season there, and went 28-15 at probation riddled USC

To think he wouldn't have had an array of choices as OC is naive at best
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:52 pm to
It happens to us all
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:52 pm to
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I think a Saban Kiffin mix is the perfect storm.

If Saban got everything he wanted, he'd be too conservative.

If Kiffin got everything he wanted, they would be too pass happy and not run the ball when they need to.

They're a good balance to each other
spot on.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
55795 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:53 pm to
At least we both got a smile out of it
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:55 pm to
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At least we both got a smile out of it

Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:01 pm to



Kiffin to LSU
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71107 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:24 pm to
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He was unemployed in September. Anyone could have hired him. Les could've hired him.

In the middle of the season? How many teams are looking to fill assistant coaching positions in October?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:28 pm to
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I think a Saban Kiffin mix is the perfect storm.

If Saban got everything he wanted, he'd be too conservative.

If Kiffin got everything he wanted, they would be too pass happy and not run the ball when they need to.

They're a good balance to each other


I said this the second he was hired, and I think there are actually gumps around here that remember it. I think I was the only one on this board that said it was a brilliant hire. Monte Kiffin's D is always what held Lane back and he has always been an absolutely killer offensive mind. Now? He's built up equity with Saban. Do you think without Kiffin, Saban would have been starting a true freshman QB? Absolutely not. Watching him work with Sims and Coker allowed Saban to loosen up and lean on offensive playmakers instead of protecting them. Lane Kiffin is the perfect compliment to Saban and I'm not so sure they win a National Title last year without him, and I definitely don't believe they'd win one this year.
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