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Posted on 6/19/24 at 5:23 am to Sleepy_Tiger
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dip shite check the link I provided and learn how to read
Um yeah, that’s the link I was looking at before I looked at Alabama’s class of 2024 that Saban signed that has 9 3stars in it. The same guy that you said in his history signed 3
Posted on 6/19/24 at 6:56 am to TrueLefty
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Kirby Smart did just fine when he took the UGA HC job.
Why can't Deboer do the same?
Nobody said he can't. He absolutely can. but Kirby Smart had to prove he could do it, didn't he? Just like every other coach. DebBoer can definitely do it, and I even said I felt he would be fine. But nobody knows for sure until her proves it.
Don't try to tear every post a part. It is what it is. Every coach has to answer certain questions concerning their ability. They answer those questions by performing on the practice field and the field on game day.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:21 am to BasedCrimson
Still no 5 stars committed in your 25 class?
Sounds elite to me. Still can’t believe it.
Sounds elite to me. Still can’t believe it.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:23 am to TideSaint
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They would have finished 3rd in the rankings last year with that average. Again, their average is only going to increase moving forward based on class projections.
Sorry, this is nuts. The averages go down for even the most elite recruiters go down, particularly when teams add filler between ESD and NSD. If you honestly believe this you're going to be disappointed. Saban came closest to maintaining his player average, but even his classes fell from where they'd be ranked this kind of year and he is probably the best recruiter in college football history.
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They would have finished 3rd in the rankings last year with that average. Again, their average is only going to increase moving forward based on class projections.
No, it won't increase. You're extremely confused if you think it will. UGA's won't increase either and we'll likely end up signing more 5-stars between now and ESD than Bama will. We'll also end up adding a bunch of 3-stars between ESD and NSD. The average ranking always goes down.
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I don't know what service you're referring to here, but OT Ty Haywood is a heavy Alabama lean.
I use 247's composite as I've found that using composite rankings avoids getting a lean from a particular service.
Ty Haywood is #11 in 247's composite. 247 doesn't CB him anywhere at the moment, the teams with "warm" interest are FSU, OU, Texas A&M, Alabama, TCU and Texas in that order.
He was included in the counts for 11-20 for Bama.
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The only delusional one here is you, bud. DeBoer is recruiting better than Saban at this point in their respective Alabama tenures. That is an absolute fact.
Seriously, what are you smoking?
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You act like following recruiting is new to us.
Based on the above statement... it seems like it is.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:54 am to TrueLefty
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Kirby Smart did just fine when he took the UGA HC job.
Why can't Deboer do the same?
Did Kalen Deboer spend 8 years learning from Saban?
By the way, that doesn't mean KD can't become a better recruiter than he was at Washington, but being mentored by the goat for 8 years is pretty hard to beat.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 9:56 am
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:25 am to TrueLefty
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Kirby Smart did just fine when he took the UGA HC job.
Kirby lost to Georgia Tech and Vandy in his first season at Georgia. Hopefully DeBoer doesn’t do that.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 10:26 am
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:35 am to ronricks
% of Bama fans who knew who their current coordinators were a year ago?
I’ll say 3%
I’ll say 3%
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:43 am to Draco Malfoy
I would think any Alabama fans in the Mobile area would be familiar with Kane Wommack.
Nick Sheridan is another story. But I remember him as a QB at Michigan. Regardless it is DeBoer’s offense.
Nick Sheridan is another story. But I remember him as a QB at Michigan. Regardless it is DeBoer’s offense.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:45 am to CapstoneGrad06
Secret sauce for kd..winner.
Massive o success.
Add Bama run game and d.
And final 1 lock after lock
Massive o success.
Add Bama run game and d.
And final 1 lock after lock
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:48 am to LafourcheTiger
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Keep telling yourself that, Gump. Your ride is over and it will be glorious watching your fan base sink back to the pre-Saban years.
The world knows it was Saban that carried you all these years. Nothing special about “Alabama” and it will be fun to watch your fans slowly come to this realization…..but suffer in denial.
Take out the Saban and Bryant years and Alabama still leads the series 27-18-5.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:55 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Nick Sheridan is another story. But I remember him as a QB at Michigan. Regardless it is DeBoer’s offense.
Then why did an NFL franchise hire Ryan Grubb to run their offense? Why did Saban interview Grubb last year?
Posted on 6/19/24 at 11:03 am to Draco Malfoy
Because he’s had success as OC under DeBoer.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 11:26 am to CapstoneGrad06
So Grubb was running the offense….
Posted on 6/19/24 at 11:26 am to ronricks
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Kirby lost to Georgia Tech and Vandy in his first season at Georgia. Hopefully DeBoer doesn’t do that.
Yep. Kirby's transition year and first year ever as a head coach was bumpy.
In the 7 completed seasons since then UGA's been in the top 3 nearly every year in recruiting and had a grand total of 5 regular season losses and a record of 86-11.(12.3 - 1.6 average yearly record).
Vandy was the real bad one that year. UGA tended to always lose to the triple-option of Paul Johnson's GT teams whenever they brought in a new DC. It's a hard offense to deal with if you haven't seen it before except on tape. GT was also 9-4 that year. They had yet to hit the down years they had with Geoff Collins.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 11:37 am to Chadaristic
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Take out the Saban and Bryant years and Alabama still leads the series 27-18-5.
I think both Bama fans and Bama haters miss the importance of this though.
Bear Bryant and Nick Saban are both top 3 coaches of all time... perhaps holding the #1 and #2 spot.
Bama without them is still quite good. On par or better than the best teams in the SEC. Bama haters often miss this.
But Bama without them isn't head and shoulders above the rest of the top teams in the SEC. They're on par or better, but not DOMINATING like they were in the years those two were coaching. Bama fans sometimes miss this distinction.
I like Deboer as a coach and I think he'll be successful at Bama. If he stays there for a decade or more I can easily seem him winning 1-2 national titles.
But it would be shocking if he dominated like Saban and Bryant did.
Bama's not going to go away. But I doubt they'll have the #1 recruiting class for 7 or 8 years in a row like they did at one point under Saban or win the national title 6 times in a 12 year stretch like they did under Saban. They aren't going to make the final 4 of the playoff like they did in 8 of the 10 years the 4 team playoff existed.
Saban was the GOAT. Deboer will be good if given a chance. But I don't think he'll be the GOAT. Or the second best of all time like Bear Bryant.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 3:25 pm to ronricks
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Kirby lost to Georgia Tech and Vandy in his first season at Georgia. Hopefully DeBoer doesn’t do that.
He won't. DeBoer will be just fine. He still won't be Saban, but who is?DeBoer has coached as a HC before this year, so he definitely has an advantage over Kirby from that perspective. But, DeBoer will be fine. Saba set Alabama up with a great roster and at worst, DeBoer is a solid coach, and he might be a great coach.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 5:16 pm to LSU Patrick
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Now that he's hauling in recruits and keeping 'Bama in the top 3 in the recruiting rankings, all of a sudden it's because of Saban/'Bama's legacy, and nothing to do with what the coach and his staff are doing.
uat is pumping all the money they are saving by not building a new basketball arena and funneling that to recruits.
Yeah, I know they are building a "worl klas bassetball praktise kourts", but coleman is still a third world dump.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 5:30 pm to DawginSC
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Right now Bama is 7th in average player ranking. Just below Clemson and just above Southern Cal (both of whom have 13 commits compared to 17 for Bama).
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