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re: Just so we are clear on the Big 6...
Posted on 6/15/23 at 2:51 pm to MackDaddyBrown
Posted on 6/15/23 at 2:51 pm to MackDaddyBrown
“Blue blood”: A term mostly used for fans to feel like their programs are still relevant.
Years since last NC
Michigan - 26
Ohio State - 9
Texas - 17
Bama - 3
OU - 23
ND - 35
SC - 19
So two of them have won a NC within the last 10 years. The rest suck. Bragging about being a “blue blood” isn’t the flex you think it is. In fact, nobody (especially the kids playing these days) gives a shite about being a “blue blood.” I’ll take the 3 natties this century over being a “blue blood” every damn time.
Years since last NC
Michigan - 26
Ohio State - 9
Texas - 17
Bama - 3
OU - 23
ND - 35
SC - 19
So two of them have won a NC within the last 10 years. The rest suck. Bragging about being a “blue blood” isn’t the flex you think it is. In fact, nobody (especially the kids playing these days) gives a shite about being a “blue blood.” I’ll take the 3 natties this century over being a “blue blood” every damn time.
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 3:16 pm to AwgustaDawg
quote:It's going to be an annual, season long grind, but I like our chances.
It is going to be SO much fun watching these numbers slide as Texas has to play the big 6 every season instead of in Bowl games. Some quick research indicates that when Texas played these games they had a winning % of .798 the year the game was played, on average. The SEC opponent had a winning % of .613%. Of the group LSU is the only team that played Texas with any regularity during the regular season and not in a bowl game, the rest of the time it was a matchup in a bowl game where Texas had a better record or a regular season matchup where Texas had a much better record than their SEC opponent. That ain't happening going forward...3 of the 4 programs are far better established than Texas at the moment and have been for far longer...one of them is coming out of slump that is unprecedented in their history and the other 2 are a pick 'em and no telling how good they may be from one year to the next.
Your post recognizes that Texas has a better record historically; that is the normal. Texas is coming out of the worst "slump" in the history of the school. We went from a decade of 11-2 to 13 years of 7-6.
Texas will not loose a recruiting battle to a Conference again, or haven't you noticed. A school, yes, but not a conference.
Texas will be a worthy competitor in 2024.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 3:43 pm to MackDaddyBrown
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The Astros are never going to be Little League world Champs, you think that bothers them one bit?
Well, the "Astros" are soon going to be in the "little league", so if it doesn't bother you, you're more irrelevant than previously thought.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 3:58 pm to trackem
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Big 6 membership has nothing to do with a team’s number of wins or NCs. If OU or Texas wins the SEC, it will become the Big 7, Big 8, etc.
I would even say winning the SEC isn’t a guaranteed place at the adult’s table.
Win the SEC, you may apply, but admission is not necessarily guaranteed. I would say Big 6 stays big six until a new team surpasses one of the current Big 6 members in SEC Titles.
We can’t water the brand down…
Posted on 6/15/23 at 3:58 pm to IAmNERD
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What is the qualification to join the Big 6?
Winning the SECCG since it's inception in the early 90s.
Goes beyond SECCG in the 90's. The Big Six in the SEC begins in 1964. It is the six teams that have outright won the SEC since that year. It also has nothing to do with BCS, or national titles.
Kentucky was given a "retroactive" share of the SEC in 1976 after Mississippi State was forced to forfeit it's wins for the '76 and '77 season for using an ineligible player. Ky lost to State 14-7 in '76, and UGA defeated KY 31-7 that year.
UGA was 5-1 and Ky was actually 4-2 in the SEC, but because the loss to State was taken away and a "win" was given they have a "5-1" record for that season, giving them the same record as UGA in the SEC; and hence, the tie/co-championship, though UGA has the tie-breaker.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 4:08 pm to red sox fan 13
Past accomplishments don’t count. They have a clean slate and must prove they can do it in this conference
Posted on 6/15/23 at 4:08 pm to bamabaseballsec
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Nattys since modernization of football(bcs) Bama 6 Lsu 3 Uga 2 Florida 2 Tenner, auburn, tex, ou each have one. Big 8
Big 4 - Bama, UGA, LSU, UF
Middle Class- UTx2, AU, OU
Strap Ons- everyone else
Posted on 6/15/23 at 4:50 pm to ClassicCityAlum
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Clemson can apply for blue blood membership with one more Natty.
The whole blue-blood thing is ridiculous in itself because it’s a myth created with multiple iterations by the fans of programs that we are told we’re dominant - all hearsay without video- with only small white men playing.
That being said - I’m really only responding to say thanks for the belly laugh. CLEMSON ONE NATTY FROM ‘BLUE BLOOD’.
See ? The blue blood farce can mean anything
Clemson WowThis post was edited on 6/15/23 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 6/15/23 at 5:44 pm to red sox fan 13
It is "the six" and was around before the actual SEC in the old SoCon days (seems it goes back to at least the 1920's).
VoLOL's may have been downtrodden since the Fat Man left, but they have the history as a SEC member to qualify.
OU and Utx have 0 wins as SEC schools much less a Natty as a SEC school
VoLOL's may have been downtrodden since the Fat Man left, but they have the history as a SEC member to qualify.
OU and Utx have 0 wins as SEC schools much less a Natty as a SEC school
Posted on 6/15/23 at 6:52 pm to Ptins944
Give it about 5-10 years and those records gonna look a lot worse for Texas I’m sure
Posted on 6/15/23 at 7:26 pm to RandySavage
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Let them win the league then they can apply for a seat at the table
Fair enough.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 7:28 pm to red sox fan 13
It's the Big 8 now (the schools who have won a BCS or CFP title game).
Posted on 6/15/23 at 10:07 pm to Leto II
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So is Georgia. If you think you are blue blood, you are on crack.
Back-to-back Natties, several SEC championships, own Auburn in the rivalry series, and produce top NFL talent. Yes, we are a blue blood.
Auburn is a second tier program that got lucky in 2010 because Cam Newton was expelled from Florida for stealing a laptop.
I love that you think we’re peers. Auburn is well below Georgia’s level.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 10:38 pm to ClassicCityAlum
There's only 1 blue blood in the SEC and it's Bama.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 11:13 pm to OhioTiger
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So two of them have won a NC within the last 10 years. The rest suck. Bragging about being a “blue blood” isn’t the flex you think it is
Posted on 6/16/23 at 7:08 am to dstone12
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Tennessee has a great history and even remained relevant over the last decade
How so? I mean kudos to their past history, but how have they remained "relevant over the past decade"?
Posted on 6/16/23 at 7:12 am to Ptins944
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Texas v.
Alabama 7-2-1 78%
LSU 9-8-1 53%
Georgia 4-1-0 80%
Florida 2-0-1 100%
Tennessee 2-1-0 67%
Auburn 5-3-0 63%
Total 29-15-3 66%
No SEC Titles, irrelevant
Posted on 6/16/23 at 7:14 am to MackDaddyBrown
Congrats on being the Blueblood that lost all of their money, influence and clout years ago. 
Posted on 6/16/23 at 7:22 am to BigBro
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Making a 12 team playoff > Making Atlanta
No, it isn't. It will be much easier to make the playoff than to win an SEC title. Is it the ultimate goal to make the playoff? Yes. But the Big 6 has to have an SEC title on their resume in the modern era.
I get what you are saying, but we are talking Big 6. Several years it has been harder to win the SECCG than to make the playoffs.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 7:23 am to Weagle25
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They have to win the SEC to get moved up. Contrary to popular belief, the big 6 is not a subjective list of teams. It has objective criteria
Basically. Have won the SEC since integration is basically the qualifier….
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