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re: Just curious.......not a flame.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 12:51 pm to MetryTyger
Posted on 11/8/11 at 12:51 pm to MetryTyger
Because football really started 30 years ago?
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 12:53 pm to Vol Fan in the Bayou
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Was that the game that caused the National Champs being named after the bowl game?
After that game the AP changed for the next year then went back to before the bowls for 1966. After the mess with ND in 1966 they returned to after the bowls in 1967 or 68 and stayed there ever since. We got one Arkansas should have had and lost one to ND that we should have had so either way you want to look at it, the number is still 7.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 12:53 pm to Vol Fan in the Bayou
Mash
You have to remember Alabama was the focus of racial animus during that time. Some think the AP was just doing this to prevent Bama from being #1, and it backfired on them.
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both of the major polls released their rankings after the end of the regular season until the AP polled writers after the bowls in 1965, resulting in what was perceived at the time as a better championship selection (Alabama) than UPI's (Michigan State). After 1965, the AP voted before the bowls for two years, permanently returning to a post-bowl vote in 1968.
You have to remember Alabama was the focus of racial animus during that time. Some think the AP was just doing this to prevent Bama from being #1, and it backfired on them.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 12:59 pm to T Rey WI
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the number is still 7
No disagreement from me.
Just some of the others ones being counted are complete BS. Just like I discount 2 or UT's 6 claimed national championships.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:02 pm to Rex Manning
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Other than the Bryant years, Alabama is really no different than any other big 6 SEC school.
Alabama was better than the rest of the SEC for the 24 years that the Bear kicked our collective arse's!
Now you must feel better.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:04 pm to Vol Fan in the Bayou
The only ones I know anything about started with Coach Bryant's 6. Prior to that there are a few that claiming would be even more sketchy than claiming 1966.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:12 pm to T Rey WI
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Prior to that there are a few that claiming would be even more sketchy than claiming 1966.
Yep. I think everyone kinda agrees 1941 was a little bogus. Add in the fact many young Americans were at war. Also Bama had two losses that year. It's always kinda bullshite when a 2 loss team claims a MNC.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:16 pm to arlo
I would gladdly trade 1941 for 1966. then we could claim 3 in a row 
and take one away from ND while we were at it.
and take one away from ND while we were at it.This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:21 pm to JoshuaChamberlain
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in before "There goes that stoopid 30 year mark again...but whatever makes you feel better..." or some such
the 30 yr mark is VERY indicitive because of a number of reasons. it represents the period after the bear retired, it is long term, most fans were alive when most of it occurred, etc. i have also seen 25 years used and occasionally 40 to 50. to me anything over 50 years is meaningless and i could made the case for anything over 30.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:22 pm to T Rey WI
they wish they had all of our accomplishments,buuuut they never will... 
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:23 pm to TigerMeister
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Other than the Bryant years, Alabama is really no different than any other big 6 SEC school.
such a stupid comment. LSU baseball is no different if not worse than any other SEC baseball program without Skip...
the reason why it isn't a stupid comment is that bama fans often point out how great their program has ALWAYS BEEN. they had one coach that was so great is record statisticaly skewed their numbers. fact.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:40 pm to LSU GrandDad
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one coach that was so great
Bryant winning percentage - %80
Stallings winning percentage - %80
Wallace Wade winning percentage - %79
Yes, Bryant was there for every so his number of wins greatly dwarf both Wade's and Stallings. But roughly the same winning percentage.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:45 pm to LSU GrandDad
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the reason why it isn't a stupid comment is that bama fans often point out how great their program has ALWAYS BEEN. they had one coach that was so great is record statisticaly skewed their numbers. fact.
I do for the following reasons.
830 wins
4 Southern Conference Championships (all outside of Bears tenure)
22 SEC Championships (9 of which outside of Bear's tenure)
7 SEC West titles outside of Bear's tenure)
9 Ten win or more undefeated, untied seasons (5 of which outside Bear's tenure)
67% winning percentage against the SEC as a whole, winning record against every single school
Most Bowl appearances and most Bowl wins of any school in FBS (119 yrs encompasses more than Bear's tenure)
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:47 pm to Alahunter
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830 wins
NCAA numbers
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:48 pm to NYCAuburn
Real wins.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:51 pm to MetryTyger
Wow! You guys have the crimson envy bad. We understand Auburns aubsession but Et tu LSU?
You have a good program why the hate?
By the way - to quote the rest of the rantards from the weekend - if you have to state "not a flame" it is.
It's kinda like saying - I'm not a racists but..
or I'm not a racist - I have a black friend.
Thanks for playin - next time just flame on.
You have a good program why the hate?
By the way - to quote the rest of the rantards from the weekend - if you have to state "not a flame" it is.
It's kinda like saying - I'm not a racists but..
or I'm not a racist - I have a black friend.
Thanks for playin - next time just flame on.
This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:52 pm to Vol Fan in the Bayou
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Bryant winning percentage - %80
Stallings winning percentage - %80
Wallace Wade winning percentage - %79
Yes, Bryant was there for every so his number of wins greatly dwarf both Wade's and Stallings. But roughly the same winning percent
Damn, forgot Frank Thomas. His winning percentage is 83% over 16 years.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:53 pm to stat19
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crimson envy bad
No, not envious. At least I am not. I do have a great deal of respect though.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 2:03 pm to Vol Fan in the Bayou
Neyland wasn't too shabby as I recall.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 2:14 pm to Vol Fan in the Bayou
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Vol Fan in the Bayou
Just curious.......not a flame.
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Bryant winning percentage - %80
Stallings winning percentage - %80
Wallace Wade winning percentage - %79
Yes, Bryant was there for every so his number of wins greatly dwarf both Wade's and Stallings. But roughly the same winning percent
What you are trying to say that Alabama's been kicking butt most of the time. The only time that has not happened is from the end of Stallings to the hiring of Saban. The time between those will be the frame that fans of other teams try to isolate so they can compare themselves to the Tide.
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