re: Just a question

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Were any of those teams playing a 10 game all conference schedule with a historic roster turnover and no offseason?

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I'm telling you that argument holds little weight outside your own constituents. LSU should never go 5-5 after a NC, especially with talent you guys have there. It doesn't help that it's alot of smoke around the program either. LSU should bounce back this year.

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LSU should never go 5-5 after a NC

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LSU should never lose 5 games period even in a regular season with the kind of talent that we can bring in. All of this opt out, turn over and new coaches BS is just a bunch of excuses. Sure those are valid reasons to lose to established teams. However it is not a reason to lose to first year coaches that are rebuilding programs.

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This year was the first year he didn’t have Miles’ coordinators and mostly Miles’ players.

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LMAO

No . LSU 's recent NC was a one hitter man ..because without us (OSU) sending LSU a QB they dont even make playoff ... so its a one hitter in that repsect but LSU , full body of seasons , has proven to be able to win a couple of NC s so they can become blue blood but not yet man ... ahhhhhhhh my fisher surgery cant come quicker ...my arse is so sore from ripping ..i may take a week off of the rant but ill be back .. need to get my arse stuff fixed

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Traditionally LSU is a great program I expect them to be Top 5/10 every year.

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My expectation every year is 10 wins, getting to a NY6 bowl and a top 10 finish. I don't think that's an unreasonable expectation for the amount of talent that we bring in. I don't know that we are ever gonna go on a Clemson or Bama type run and I'm fine with that. I have no problem with us competing for an SEC Championship every 3-5 years and a run to the CFP in the year that we do win the SEC.

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Surely if this was the case LSU fans would've lower expectations for 2020, right?

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Those predictions were all made before the opt outs and Brennan was injured.

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Those predictions were all made before the opt outs and Brennan was injured.

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The only prediction I made was right before the season started because before Chase opted out I thought we'd go 8-2. It wasn't until after opt outs that I gave an official prediction of 7-3. So, I'm pretty sure that list is legit after opt outs unless you're saying that everyone just stuck with their original prediction which is certainly possible.

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Why do fans from other conferences say one hit wonder for LSU after playing in 4 national championships and winning 3?
With three different coaches

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The stats you quote are for the last 18 years. "Now/current" to most people is the last 5, at most 10 years.

LSU has finished in the top 10 two times in the last 9 years, i.e., since 2011, once in the top 5, twice unranked.

Also, people still genuinely question Orgeron, even though he has done a good job - the end of year recovery last year was big, IMO. But he is totally dependent on coordinators, even with great talent.

Another part of it is that many of the LSU fans on this board never give credit to other programs, including Alabama, who is on the greatest run in the sport's history. But some LSU fans strut around here like they are the top dog, never giving an inch (e.g., Willie T.). Who wants to reward that? Bama is 9-1 in the last 10 and you would think that LSU was superior if you listened to half of the LSU posters. You (not you personally, I don't know your usual disposition) show no respect, you get none.

(An aside: Before I found this board LSU had been my 2nd favorite team, remembering WWL, Hap ?Laudi?, Buddy D., the late Sat night games of the 60s and 70s, Bama indebted to LSU for beating Ark following '65 season in Cotton Bowl, LSU standing with Bama occasionally in the 60's and 70s for the SEC, fans I've known, etc. But after this board it is tough, though I know msg boards posters are not representative fans. It's hard to overcome though, so I stay away for the most part.)

The reality is that LSU has great talent and is always a threat. IMO, they are almost always Bama's greatest obstacle, even though AU has won more 4-9 vs 3-11, since Bama started its run in 2008. AU's has been somewhat flukey (not saying they don't deserve great credit - they do), but LSU, who has had little good fortune, can usually match up physically better than anyone, including current UGA. LSU and UGA have been Alabama's biggest hurdles the last 13 and 4 years respectively, though you've dropped off a tad.

As soon as Alabama loses a game the entire country runs out into the streets yelling, "the dynasty is dead, the dynasty is dead". They are ready to anoint anyone in their place. Until this year's NC you would have thought Clemson had won 5 of the last 11 NCs. I.e., it happens to everyone.

You bring up several great points.

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Another part of it is that many of the LSU fans on this board never give credit to other programs, including Alabama

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Not including Alabama; especially Alabama.

We don't even know how to give credit to our people when they're kicking arse. Not very realistic to expect us to be gracious towards towards the Gumps. As you know, they're doing quite well.