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Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:55 am to Gatorbait2008
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Isn't a decent bit of that number 1 class not in the program anymore? Including half the five stars?
I'm sure a lot of players on a lot of teams have changed since 2018. I'm pretty sure there was a big thread on Florida at that time on the rant focused on kids transferring, not qualifying, or being kicked out. Or am I mistaken?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:55 am to jodeaux
He was talking bad about joe burreaux last year too. Don’t listen to him
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:57 am to meansonny
I don't remember bragging about our class? I used current numbers to get to my argument when I made the case. You used a class, but didn't mention a lot of the parts that made it number 1 have left. Just noting that it should be mentioned.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:02 pm to Gatorbait2008
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I don't remember bragging about our class? I used current numbers to get to my argument when I made the case. You used a class, but didn't mention a lot of the parts that made it number 1 have left. Just noting that it should be mentioned
I never bragged either. The point is that Kirby has been recruiting at another level since 2018. And that "another level" is just now starting to become upperclassmen.
The reply was to an LSU fan who ignored that LSU recruited better than UGA. And most fans often ignore the importance of senior leadership (or at least upperclass leadership for those players who will be heading off to the nfl in 2021).
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:04 pm to meansonny
Ah gotcha. He certainly has.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:16 pm to luismlg
LSU caught lightning in a bottle. We had dysfunction on one side of the ball....
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:22 pm to Gatorbait2008
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Isn't a decent bit of that number 1 class not in the program anymore? Including half the five stars?
Yes, but OP doesn’t understand why that renders a class ranking irrelevant/
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:28 pm to meansonny
quote:I mean not really...
The reply was to an LSU fan who ignored that LSU recruited better than UGA
2019:
UGA - #2
LSU - #5
2018:
UGA - #1
LSU - #15
2017:
UGA - #3
LSU - #7
2016:
UGA - #6
LSU - #2
2015:
UGA - #6
LSU - #5
247 composite also said that UGA had a more talented roster than LSU in 2018 and 2019.
So I would say the talent gap was actually in favor of UGA, and that includes "senior leadership". We will see if Kirby changed it, but up until now you have had a coaching problem. If Mullen had talent like UGA he would smoke Kirby, just like Coach O has.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:29 pm to lewis and herschel
quote:Did LSU also have lighting in a bottle in 2018?
LSU caught lightning in a bottle.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:31 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
Nah, but was at Death Valley. We struggle when the online can't hear cadence, ask 2017 Auburn what happened when the crowd flipped.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:31 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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So I would say the talent gap was actually in favor of UGA, and that includes "senior leadership
Do you understand how a composite works?
It ranks freshmen the same as seniors.
It ranks sophomores the same as seniors.
So when a composite says that UGA has more talent, it can be stating that UGAs freshmen and sophomores are more talented than LSUs juniors and seniors.
You never happened to notice a difference in Joe Burrow with his junior year and senior year, did you? Or are you being disengenuous?
Come on, man. This isnt rocket science. It is football. You and I dont need a Vanderbilt degree to understand this.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:40 pm to meansonny
quote:Yes. It's a pretty simple concept. It rates the talent on the current roster based off of past recruiting classes.
Do you understand how a composite works?
quote:So LSU's seniors in 2015 were one rank higher than UGA's and 4 ranks higher in 2016. That's a pretty small talent gap compared to the gaps on the scoreboard in 2018 and 2019.
2019:
UGA - #2
LSU - #5
2018:
UGA - #1
LSU - #15
2017:
UGA - #3
LSU - #7
2016:
UGA - #6
LSU - #2
2015:
UGA - #6
LSU - #5
I've said it multiple times already. UGA has a coaching problem, which is why any team with a good coach and remotely good talent has a chance to beat them. Enter UF & Dan Mullen.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:55 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Do you understand how a composite works?
Yes. It's a pretty simple concept. It rates the talent on the current roster based off of past recruiting classes.
Maybe this is more difficult for you than I thought.
It rates the talent on the current roster based on the recruiting rankings for each scholarship player.
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So LSU's seniors in 2015 were one rank higher than UGA's and 4 ranks higher in 2016. That's a pretty small talent gap compared to the gaps on the scoreboard in 2018 and 2019.
It is a narrow gap. How astute of you!
Now, did you notice if Joe Burrow was better as a senior than he was as a junior? Do you think age/maturity/strength/experience are important for college football players in the SEC?
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I've said it multiple times already
What is interesting to me is that I've never heard of you. I must have missed your blog.
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Enter UF & Dan Mullen
Dan has scored more than 17 points on a Kirby Smart defense 1 time in 11 tries. That was 2008 in the SECCG.
Hell... the only reason Mullen scored 17 points last season is because he sabotaged his team's last chance to win by doing so. A coach literally gave up a chance to win the game by milking a clock in an effort to score a TD when down by multiple scores.
So, forgive me if I'm not impressed with Dan Mullens gameday coaching prowess
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:59 pm to jodeaux
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Here's the last 4 recruiting cycles:
Now do the last 4 recruiting cycles with South Carolina.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:23 pm to bigDgator
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Now do the last 4 recruiting cycles with South Carolina
I think the gap between UGA and SCar is probably narrower than the gap between UF and Mizzou.
The relevant question is the gap between UGA and UF though. Amirite?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:30 pm to meansonny
Pretty close. TD game last year. So seems like the gap is closing, not getting larger.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:37 pm to meansonny
quote:It is! Unlike the scoreboards have been.
It is a narrow gap. How astute of you!
quote:I did seem to notice that. Joe got better as he became more experienced. If only the same could be said for Fromm.
Now, did you notice if Joe Burrow was better as a senior than he was as a junior?
quote:Of course. But according to another thread on the rant UGA is only returning 35.1% of their total offense. So I would assume that all of the lost production on offense can be attributed upperclassmen leaving the team.
Do you think age/maturity/strength/experience are important for college football players in the SEC?
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So, forgive me if I'm not impressed with Dan Mullens gameday coaching prowess
Nobody is impressed with Kirby's game day coaching. It's widely accepted as his biggest flaw as a coach, and why UGA has blown multiple games since he became the coach. Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:40 pm to Gatorbait2008
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Pretty close. TD game last year.
Are you really taking the bait like that from Dan Mullen?
1) uf never ran an offensive play in the second half with a chance to tie or take the lead. There is very little risk of UGA losing when UF cant tie or take the lead.
2) UGA ran out the last 3:10 of the clock AND had all 3 timeouts in our pocket. Mullen acts like the game ended when he got his 2nd TD. The game was over (figuratively, because Grantham couldnt stop UGA). But if UGA needed to move the ball and score through the air, I have no doubts that we could have. But our coach isnt an idiot like Mullen. Our coach doesnt play to a spread. He plays to win.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:41 pm to lewis and herschel
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LSU caught lightning in a bottle. We had dysfunction on one side of the ball....
Ed O had an offense that was holding them back, and all he did was change the offensive staff to modernize the offense and get a transfer QB to implement it.
Kirby would NEVER be in a situation like that!
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