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re: John Chavis statement on defensive talent today

Posted on 8/13/15 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Yall boast about your offense like it actually wins games. That offense hasn't done shite for you.


It is the only reason we are even SLIGHTLY relevant to recruits.

quote:

Don't pretend like last years O is the norm for LSU offense


From our perspective the LSU offensive has been at a "norm" for a while. You can't see that because of where you stand. One day when the coach post-Les implements a modern offense at LSU yall will see what a dinosaur show the current LSU offense is.

quote:

Don't forget that football existed before 2012.


Actually I chose to and I will.

Just like most LSU fans forget football existed pre-2000. I learn from the best.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

Collins will be a loss, but we didn't lose anyone else of note.


So he isn't being replaced by comparable talent? To be expected. Expect a downgrade.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71683 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:09 pm to
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So he isn't being replaced by comparable talent?


Hawkins will be a 2nd-4th round type pick and has 2 years starting experience at RT, so not exactly a slouch.

We also return Pocic (1 year starting experience) & Alexander (3 years starting experience - will be very very high NFL draft pick this year)

Losing Porter at center was hardly a loss that Clapp will easily fill and Boutte is the definition of a gigantic road grading guard. He's Herman Johnson's mini-me (only because big herm was like 6'7 385).
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 3:14 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40821 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:15 pm to
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"The third year of me being the coordinator at Tennessee, we won an SEC championship, the fourth year we played for and won a national championship. LSU, the third year, we played for a national championship. We are as talented now as when I was at Tennessee or when I went to LSU. We will be improved, there's no question about that. It's not a lack of talent. We have work to do, but we have a ton of talent that fits places in our scheme."
Posted by TexasAg13
San Antonio de Béxar
Member since Jul 2013
5892 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:17 pm to
He must be lying. No way he's telling the truth!!
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26103 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:18 pm to
I'm glad you picked up your talking point from our board to bring over here.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71683 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:19 pm to
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He must be lying. No way he's telling the truth!!


Chavis named DJ Welter most improved player back in 2013

He also wanted Kendell Beckwith at DE instead of LB to start DJ Welter at MLB back in 2013.

Chavis likes to think he knows what he's talking about when it comes to talent evaluation, but he doesnt know shite.
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 3:20 pm
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:20 pm to
So after 76 years, Chavis shows up on campus for a few months and says they will win a natty title....ok.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26103 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:21 pm to
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So after 76 years, Chavis shows up on campus for a few months and says they will win a natty title....ok.


Give them a break. They thought Mike Sherman was a good hire. Aggy can be talked into anything.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72078 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:22 pm to
Well we will see how things shape up this year then. By your analysis, and the clear DE talent aTm has, yall should win a bunch of games.

My point was more about LSU than aTm though. I simply gave you Miles' strategy. He prefers to use clock. It's an odd comparison given the offenses strategies are so vastly different. Yall may have a better offense, but Miles strategy has won him a lot of games over the years.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71683 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:23 pm to
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They thought Mike Sherman was a good hire


They think Sumlin is too

"BUT WE SCORE SO MANY POINTS!"
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 3:24 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72078 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:24 pm to
The remaining positions on the OL were very young. Collins and hen everyone else. This year there will be much more experience, and we actually have a C who is NFL caliber.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62682 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:26 pm to
"The third year of me being the coordinator at Tennessee, we won an SEC championship, the fourth year we played for and won a national championship. LSU, the third year, we played for a national championship. We are as talented now as when I was at Tennessee or when I went to LSU. We will be improved, there's no question about that. It's not a lack of talent. We have work to do, but we have a ton of talent that fits places in our scheme."




Nice, I wish the LSU fans would stop melting and flaming so we could discuss football
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72078 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:27 pm to
That dinosaur offense has taken LSU to the NC twice in 8 years. Your, urm, non dinosaur offense has won a cotton bowl and a Bama game.

I think we will be just fine. Starting this year.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72078 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:28 pm to
Sarge, there are plenty of aTm fans doing the same, per usual

Don't be a hypocrite
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62682 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:29 pm to
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That dinosaur offense has taken LSU to the NC twice in 8 years. Your, urm, non dinosaur offense has won a cotton bowl and a Bama game.



That's not true at all, Chavis's elite defenses took you there.

And your offense cost you a title.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72078 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:31 pm to
Chavis was not the DC in 2007. LSU was a run first team then too.

I'll agree the O cost us the 2011 title. Or, Jefferson in particular actually. The strategy worked all year...we were undefeated.
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
Member since Oct 2011
37909 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:31 pm to
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Your, urm, non dinosaur offense has won a cotton bowl and a Bama game.
Excuse me, it's a Liberty Bowl Championship caliber offense.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:32 pm to
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The remaining positions on the OL were very young. Collins and hen everyone else.


So you expect the offensive line to be more experience, but less talented? Of which, it probably won't make great plays, but make less mistakes, resulting in a serviceable offensive line? Not that unreasonable, as long as you realize it won't be as good.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86835 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:34 pm to
except when your boy went up against NFL talent he got worked. chavis isn't going to be out there pushing 300lb tackles.
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