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re: Joe Burrow struggling "badly" in camp

Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:42 pm to
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10320 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:42 pm to
He failed at Ohio State or wherever the hell he was. He failed in 2018 at LSU. He got lucky in 2019 which was established that it was the result of lightning in a bottle coordinators.


This is all just returning to mean for both LSU and Burrow.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44845 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:12 pm to
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He probably needs to get hit in some live action to gain confidence in the knee again.


He needs to understand that his repaired knee is stronger than his uninjured one. If he gets into the habit of trying to protect the teflon string he now has he will increase the odds of injuring his other knee. It happens all the time. Best thing he can do is forget about it. Despite all the pain and rehab, that knee is far better than the other one when it comes to ligaments. Play as normal and don't over protect one at the cost of inadvertently causing injury to the other.
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:41 pm to
Failed in 2018? First season in new program, he lead the team to a 10-3 record and a Fiesta Bowl win over the defending national champions. Finished ranked #6 in the AP poll. Hardly a failure. Don’t know where you Gumps come up with this garbage.
Posted by JerryRTiger
Member since Jun 2021
389 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:45 pm to
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So true. There will be an ongoing campaign on this board by gumps to promote the idea that Tua was really better than Burrow and they beat themselves in 2019. They try so hard to make people believe 2020 Bama was better than 2019 LSU, its fun to watch.


That's a lot of theorizing and explaining. Are you sure it's Bama fans trying hard and not someone making a post like this?
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
18138 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:55 pm to
Bengals fan here.

All the reports I've heard on Cincinnati radio indicate Joe seems to be holding back on his leg, and that he and Chase haven't had the same chemistry so far in practice.

Media has been lauding the secondary as being really improved, which to me sounds more like skirting away from weather Joe trusts his leg or not.
Posted by ffishstik
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4139 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:55 pm to
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he's looking more & more like a Joe Brady system QB


WTF are you talking about? He looked great last year! unfortunately, his O line did not.
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:59 pm to
I think they are rushing him back too fast. Might have been better off sitting for at least part of the season. Bengals aren’t winning anything this season anyway, why have him out there Week 1?
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
33970 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:00 am to
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Frac the world
Alabama QB Heismans ever : 0
Joe Heismans : 1

He’s better than any QB ever at your school

Deal with it
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:06 am to
Well he beat Bama’s school-best QB on Bama’s field. They are still melting about it.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
18167 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:07 am to
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Hardly a failure.


Definitely considered a successful season in Baton Rouge.
Posted by JerryRTiger
Member since Jun 2021
389 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:08 am to
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All the reports I've heard on Cincinnati radio indicate Joe seems to be holding back on his leg, and that he and Chase haven't had the same chemistry so far in practice.


Thanks for the reports, UK. I don't like Joe Burrow because he beat Bama and seemed cocky doing it. That's the truth of it. The guy could not be stopped and I thought it may be a quite a while before we see another like him. During some of his games, not just against Alabama, I would be saying to myself that his accuracy could not hold up forever but, it did.

Then, to show how things have really changed in the SEC, his performances were surpassed the very next season by Jones.

Burrow will be okay. It's practice, as had been said, and he's just back from surgery. Anyone would be a bit timid to begin with; everyone observing him that matters in regards to his employment knows that.

He'll be the starter, let's not kid ourselves. How good he really does and how good he really is will be determined in the future.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 12:11 am
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:18 am to
I think 98% of the teams in the country would take 10-3 and finishing 6th with a bowl win. A loss to #1 Bama, at Fla and to A&M in the fixed game. Good wins over #8 Miami, #7 Auburn, #2 Georgia, #22 MSU and #7 UCF. By any objective measure, only an idiot would call that season a failure.
Posted by JerryRTiger
Member since Jun 2021
389 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:22 am to
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I think 98% of the teams in the country would take 10-3 and finishing 6th with a bowl win. A loss to #1 Bama, at Fla and to A&M in the fixed game. Good wins over #8 Miami, #7 Auburn, #2 Georgia, #22 MSU and #7 UCF. By any objective measure, only an idiot would call that season a failure.


It's a failure when fans start to expect more. 10-3 hurts, you have to admit that. It's not horrible by any stretch but, it was a let down to virtually all LSU fans who knew it could have been much better.

You are right that the majority of teams would pay LSU to let them have their 10-3 record if it came to that. But for LSU now, that just isn't enough. That's a good thing.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 12:24 am
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
18049 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:24 am to
Burrow will be fine, he is just now coming back from a major knee injury cut him some slack? lol
Posted by macjonesgoat
Member since Feb 2021
898 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:42 am to
In no way is a 10-3 season a failure. I love Alabama and I wouldn't consider 2014 to be a "failure" of a season. Burrow is a great Qb, just like Tua and Mac are. Any team in America would sell their soul to have any of them.
Posted by JerryRTiger
Member since Jun 2021
389 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:55 am to
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In no way is a 10-3 season a failure. I love Alabama and I wouldn't consider 2014 to be a "failure" of a season. Burrow is a great Qb, just like Tua and Mac are. Any team in America would sell their soul to have any of them.


Not a failure but a let down considering what Alabama has conditioned all of us to expect. Bama was 12-2, btw, in '14 and not 10-3.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 2:56 am
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
33065 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:56 am to
Because in 2014 Alabama won the SEC and made the first ever CFP.
Posted by JerryRTiger
Member since Jun 2021
389 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:59 am to
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Because in 2014 Alabama won the SEC and made the first ever CFP.


He had it all wrong but we know what he is saying. It's okay to go 10-3 and we should not be an unreasonable fanbase.

10-3 seasons are for teams that just can't ever quite get over the hump but get close. It doesn't seem he is talking about Alabama. I've never heard an Alabama fan say they were fine with 10-3 seasons. Bricks through windows is what Bama does with 10-3 coaches.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 3:02 am
Posted by macjonesgoat
Member since Feb 2021
898 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 2:59 am to
I'm aware of the difference in win/losses. My point is referencing what Saban said after we lost to Ohio state, that it was considered a failure when we should be proud of how close we came. Saban has spoiled our fanbase.
Posted by JerryRTiger
Member since Jun 2021
389 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 3:04 am to
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I'm aware of the difference in win/losses. My point is referencing what Saban said after we lost to Ohio state, that it was considered a failure when we should be proud of how close we came. Saban has spoiled our fanbase.


This was a misunderstanding then. Great quote you posted and I'm glad you explained what you meant. I wrongly thought you believed '14 was a 10-3 season. No big deal.

The mention of being spoiled is true if it has ever been true about a fanbase. But, it's not the only period of time over the span of many, many decades that Alabama fans have become supremely confident to the point of arrogance.

That is normal; any fan of teams that are similar to Bama have now and have had fans who just expect to win or they get rowdy. Overall, I believe Bama fans handle it pretty well and don't act too haughty or smug.



This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 3:10 am
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