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re: Jimbo Fisher to Texas A&M?

Posted on 11/8/17 at 11:51 am to
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 11:51 am to
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You really believe this? because I don't. You want to turn a kids head? Show him a fancy locker room, great weight room, and players lounge that is tricked out, and they will line up.



hence why in 2015 and 2016 Texas A&M, with the newest and best facilities in the conference (arguably the country) finished outside of the top 10 in recruiting.

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They got a lot of great players.


they really don't. They are middle of the pack talent wise with the SEC. Better than many, but not nearly as deep as some others. Look at their depth chart.

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If that is all they wanted they would be going to UAB, Troy, Kentucky and Vanderbilt.



This is such bullshite. Freshman play all the time in the SEC. Literally every team starts and plays multiple young players every year. You must not follow recruiting at all? Kids flip to other schools because their current school they are committed to recruited someone for their position.

You don't have to go to UAB to play early....that's ridiculous.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72147 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 11:53 am to
Jimbo would be a solid hire and instant upgrade. I'd be concerned with his management of FSU this year, but overall he's probably the best successful coach who might be on the market.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 12:21 pm to
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Literally every team starts and plays multiple young players every year.


Young players. Not freshmen.

Let's look at the top 10 in the CFP poll

Georgia - Starts 2 freshmen, 2 sophomores
Alabama - Starts 1 freshman, 5 sophomores
Notre Dame - Starts 6 sophomores (ZERO freshmen)
Clemson - Starts 6 sophomores (ZERO freshmen)
Oklahoma - Starts 2 freshmen, 8 sophomores
TCU - Starts 5 sophomores (ZERO freshmen)
Miami - Starts 1 freshman, 7 sophomores
Wisconsin - Starts 3 freshmen, 4 sophomores
Washington - Starts 2 freshmen, 6 sophomores
Auburn - Starts 1 freshman, 9 sophomores

A&M started seven freshmen against Auburn (QB-Mond, WR-Ausbon, OL-Green, OL-McCollum, LB-Johnson, CB-Renfro, CB-Jones) Only Ryan McCollum was a redshirt freshman out of that group.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 12:23 pm
Posted by OilfieldTrashAg
Austin, TX
Member since Aug 2011
1927 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 1:27 pm to
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I’d fess up if it was.. vaguely remember him but we are not the same. Sounds better than being tied to RDuke/Satterfield etc.. absolutely cannot stand that guy.


Well you must be doing something right to be confused for Dub, he was a good dude. talked some good natured smack, but he was a damn good poster.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72147 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 1:40 pm to
The point is still exactly the same. Your best players are generally going to go wherever they have the best chance at playing, as earliest as possible. There are exceptions of course. But that is weighed considerably more than how nice the facilities are, when you already know no matter the university you choose, you will have very good facilities.

The entire point is that these kids aren't going to UAB to play early, and have shitty facilities. But they aren't choosing A&M over LSU based on facilities, if they can play much earlier at LSU. For the most part, of course.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Realistic Ag
Member since Jun 2014
2053 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 1:51 pm to
Yes, there are many variables at play and they are prioritized differently by each individual recruit.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
27591 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 2:04 pm to
Read this article, and things look a lot more interesting. A&M has given EVERYTHING to Sumlin, while Fisher is constantly at odds with the FSU Admins

https://gridironnow.com/seminole-fans-underestimate-texas-am-at-your-own-peril/
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72147 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 2:08 pm to
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Yes, there are many variables at play and they are prioritized differently by each individual recruit.



we are getting away from the point in this discussion, which is if Jimbo would be swayed to leave a job at FSU due to facilities at A&M, along with other things.

IMO that impresses the PJ Flecks of the world, because he's competing for 3 stars and Minnesota probably has just decent facilities, in comparison. FSU currently recruits better than A&M, and while their facilities are not as crackerjack, they certainly aren't anything to scoff at.

he ain't leaving a top tier job for A&M because A&M has money and nice stuff. FSU has money and nice stuff. You don't need a billion dollars to land the #1 player in the country. And a billion dollars certainly doesn't guarantee success. And it ain't like yall are gonna pay the man 9M bucks after he lost to NC State and beat Syracuse by 3.

IMO if he goes to A&M it's because he wants out of FSU, for whatever reason, and A&M is simply the best available job. Which is arguable, because UF is available. But I don't see him making that jump for obvious reasons.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72147 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 2:12 pm to
Interesting article and exactly what LSU fans heard last year as well. Not saying that means anything, because I believe the AD at LSU made many mistakes.

It is worth noting that Chadd Scott is an SEC guy to the core, though. JS.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 2:12 pm
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 2:28 pm to
Jimbo Fisher not going to A&M


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then Texas A&M is REALLY a lesser job than FSU. At least at LSU, you are the king of an entire recruiting-rich state. At Texas A&M, you will always be the Texas Longhorns’ annoying kid brother.



Dammmmmmmmn.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
27591 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 2:29 pm to
Read that one as well. It will be interesting to watch it play out
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 2:30 pm to
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Why?

Because a reporter from Houston went on Paul Finebaum’s show on the SEC Network and said Jimbo’s name had been “mentioned“ as a candidate if Kevin Sumlin is fired by A&M.

Really?

Seriously?

I hope he sees the irony in his article.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 2:44 pm to
You cited Mike Bianchi.

That's like CITING MIKE BIANCHI.

If you recall, this is the same idiot who thinks that the Mississippi Schools need to leave the SEC and be replaced by UCF and South Florida.

He's the CHIP BROWN of Florida.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 2:46 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45272 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:19 pm to
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Jake_LaMotta

Can’t imagine you ever making a non-horrible post.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 3:36 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45272 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:20 pm to
This rumored hire rates high on my “meh” scale.
Put me in the no thanks camp.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
19995 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:27 pm to
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Put me in the no thanks camp.



I don’t like Aggies arguing with Aggies on this site, but you’re out of your damn mind. There is no reasonable standard by which Fisher is anything but a homerun hire.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:34 pm to
Fisher is the almost complete opposite of meh.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45272 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:34 pm to
No worries; I’m not looking to argue.
Most folks have ambivalent or “coolish” feelings towards a coach/team or two.
Fisher’s one of those guys for me.
I certainly respect your opinion, though.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
19995 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:44 pm to
Edit: I mobile posted a thumbs icon, but it didn’t go through.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 3:46 pm
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:47 pm to
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I don’t like Aggies arguing with Aggies on this site, but you’re out of your damn mind. There is no reasonable standard by which Fisher is anything but a GRANDSLAM hire.


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