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re: Jawja lawyer on Cam
Posted on 11/15/10 at 7:13 pm to gumbeaux
Posted on 11/15/10 at 7:13 pm to gumbeaux
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All that has happened is that a loophole has been exposed and you are proud that the Newtons are taking advantage of it.
pfffft.....the NCAA is not scared of that bullshite "loophole". That is attorney bluster and posturing. The NCAA has regulations that it can enforce. The Heisman is NOT an NCAA property. That is a totally private organization.
Draft status is of no concern to the NCAA. They are NOT the NFL or an affiliate thereof.
They can enforce their rules and that threat is as empty as the heads of those that see nothing wrong with this Cam situation.
I am NOT saying AU paid. I have no knowledge of that and make no claim. But, I believe that Cam is ineligible based upon the seeking of an additional benefit and I KNOW that the NCAA can find that to be so and, if they choose, rule him ineligible without concern for the crap spewed by the esteemed barrister.
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Posted on 11/15/10 at 7:14 pm to 87BAMAGRAD
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Not to beat a dead horse, but this scenario asks us to believe two people who have zero credibility.
SO KENNY ROGERS IS A BOY SCOUT TOO?
MSU IS GONNA GET HAMMERED. SNITCHES GET STITCHES BITCHES.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 7:14 pm to gumbeaux
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"You've got rule 16 of the NCAA manual and it prohibits a relative of a student athlete from receiving an extra benefit."
Tolley is a "steak face". He don't care about his clients, he just wants to cram another hunk of meat down his throat.
And Winnee sounds like the guy narrating old German war footage.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 7:14 pm to NEWOTiger
The NCAA doesn't need audio. All they need are two statements that pretty much agree with each other. Then it becomes fact. If this "recruiter" is a coach, he is a member of the NCAA and you can bet your arse that the NCAA will believe a coach more than they will a parent who has lied about these events before.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 7:15 pm to e2drummer
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If Cam HAS ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE of "play for pay",
What kind of stoopid atty is this? Is Cam going ever admit he knew? Of course not. And there's no way in hell the Newtons can prove a negative in a court of law. How can you prove someone didnt know something?
This is total BS.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 7:18 pm to e2drummer
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DAMN RIGHT I'M PROUD OF THAT LOOPHOLE. YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS WE FOUND IT BEFORE LSU DID.
Take it easy there E2....your frustration that the whole country is not recognizing your school's season is showing up big time.
Like I said, like it or not, this season will always have an asterisk beside it.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 7:21 pm to I Love Bama
quote:yall do know that this is the same reporter who broke the story last week with the "source" claiming that cecil newton admitted to talking money with msu. at the time everybody thought the story was great. he had the same disclosure then, too.
NOTE: WSB-TV investigative reporter Mark Winne believes it important to note he attended Auburn and remains involved in academic affairs there.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 7:22 pm to e2drummer
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Jawja lawyer on Cam
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All that has happened is that a loophole has been exposed and you are proud that the Newtons are taking advantage of it.
DAMN RIGHT I'M PROUD OF THAT LOOPHOLE. YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS WE FOUND IT BEFORE LSU DID.
Ahhh... so guys are down to the "whatever... prove it bitches" defense? It's gonna be that much sweeter when you guys are scrambling to join C-USA in about 5 years. Y'all should NEVER have tried to pull that shite outside of your own state.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 7:22 pm to guttata
My understanding of the NCAA process is that once it is proven that his father was shopping him, the burden will then shift to Cam to prove that he did not know about it. This will be very hard to do with his well publicized remarks that the decision on where to go was left entirely up to his father. It is common for recruits to say their parents were a factor in the decision, but it is almost unheard of to say you went to a school because it is where your father ordered you to go, especially when you publicly said you would have gone to another school if not for the order.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 7:34 pm to e2drummer
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Bama lawyer on Cam
You using lulu as a source?
Posted on 11/15/10 at 7:55 pm to guttata
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If Cam gets a pass, why wouldn't every recruits parents ask for money behind their kids back?
Do you people know how laughable you sound repeating this rediculous argument? Do some of you actually think before you type?
Why would someone think they could shop around their kid knowing that they CAN'T ACCEPT THE MONEY!!! WHAT'S THE POINT?
"Hey Mr. Recruiter, I'll need 100K for my kid to sign with your school...OH BUT DON'T ACTUALLY GIVE ME THE MONEY BECAUSE MY SON WILL BE INELIGIBLE AND THEN HE'LL HAVE TO GO PLAY FOR ANOTHER SCHOOL SINCE HE DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS!!"
If Newton really didn't know what was going on then he shouldn't be ineligible. However, I still haven't heard an explanation about the 'money was too much' quote.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 8:00 pm to 87BAMAGRAD
I'm curious, and forced to ask...
Do you think it makes a fricking shite what you believe? I mean does what you believe amount to a pimple on a gnat's arse in regards to anything, much less Cam and Auburn?
Do you think it makes a fricking shite what you believe? I mean does what you believe amount to a pimple on a gnat's arse in regards to anything, much less Cam and Auburn?
Posted on 11/15/10 at 8:02 pm to TheOC
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Do you people know how laughable you sound repeating this rediculous argument? Do some of you actually think before you type?
irony is not a river in Egypt
Posted on 11/15/10 at 8:05 pm to Monticello
your understanding of the NCAA process is as flawed as the rest of your logic.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 8:08 pm to Buck Sweep
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Buck Sweep
Jawja lawyer on Cam
your understanding of the NCAA process is as flawed as the rest of your logic.
I do have to concede that if anyone knows the NCAA process...it's the Auburn fan base.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 8:09 pm to Buck Sweep
So many people on this board have just gotten to the point of being borderline retards as they S L O W L Y come to the realization AU is fine.
As I have been saying and have been certain of since Sat morning.
One last time, if nothing NEW comes to light that is totally unknown at this point, absolutely nothing is going to happen to AU.
As I have been saying and have been certain of since Sat morning.
One last time, if nothing NEW comes to light that is totally unknown at this point, absolutely nothing is going to happen to AU.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 8:10 pm to e2drummer
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I believe a court and/or jury would find NCAA rule making Cam "guilty" for Cecil's conduct arbitrary and capricous, and null and void.
Yea, I'm sure the NCAA will agree that it's ok to ask for money as long as you don't tell your son.
That is not going to open up a huge can of worms at all...
Posted on 11/15/10 at 8:10 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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absolutely nothing is going to happen to AU.
Does this mean Cam will NOT be ruled ineligible and AU does not vacate / forfeit any wins?
Or, just no additional sanctions (bowl bans, scollies, etc)?
Posted on 11/15/10 at 8:11 pm to tigersruledude
You'd think the bammers would too...but...
Posted on 11/15/10 at 8:12 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
I think it's unlikely Cam will be ruled ineligible, but not completely out of the question.
But explain to me why Auburn would lose "scollies" as you call them, or be banned from bowls?
But explain to me why Auburn would lose "scollies" as you call them, or be banned from bowls?
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