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re: Jalen Tabor says college football is "Modern Form of Slavery"
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:37 pm to 3rddownonthe8
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:37 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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I mean it's a very fine line. But why should a school get to promote a kids name and make money off him. It's one thing the kid makes the school money out of performance, by winning, by getting awards. I just think if your gonna use his/her likeness then something needs to happen. We all have a right to our personal image. Maybe they should put a percentage of the income of these items into an account , that is paid at time of the kid leaving.
You sign those rights away when you enter a contract with them, if you don't like it, don't participate.
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:49 pm to tennvol
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You sign those rights away
Not what the courts ruled in the Ed O' Bannon case and their $40 million settlement with EA Sports.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:50 pm to tennvol
Well a coach signs a contract with the school. But they are free to go start up any outside business they want and not provide the school with a percentage.
The student can't even get a part time job. You really think that's fair. All other students can get jobs. You really can't be against that. If do you really do think of them as servants/ slaves. That their only purpose is to make your school money. If so you are the worst kind of fan. Why on earth shouldn't a student be able to make some money outside of school. I'm not for them getting s share of AD income, but dang they should be able to work if it doesn't interfere with the team or school.
The student can't even get a part time job. You really think that's fair. All other students can get jobs. You really can't be against that. If do you really do think of them as servants/ slaves. That their only purpose is to make your school money. If so you are the worst kind of fan. Why on earth shouldn't a student be able to make some money outside of school. I'm not for them getting s share of AD income, but dang they should be able to work if it doesn't interfere with the team or school.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:52 pm to tennvol
There are a few really stupid people in this thread. I hope they are just trolling. Anyone with a brain knows that college players at big time schools have it made in every conceivable way.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:54 pm to VVega
I'm not saying they don't have it made , as I clarified earlier.
And they don't deserve a part of the big pie. A lot of it is spoken for.
I'm just asking why can't the work a summer job or sell stuff on eBay like everyone else. That seems a little overreaching by the NCAA
And they don't deserve a part of the big pie. A lot of it is spoken for.
I'm just asking why can't the work a summer job or sell stuff on eBay like everyone else. That seems a little overreaching by the NCAA
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:01 pm to 3rddownonthe8
I agree with the work if it doesn't interfere.
But he's getting a 29k a year education at a top 50 school with less than a 50% selection rate, plus benefits. Does he get that opportunity without football?
I just think it's funny that underpaid/no paid grad assistants and interns working on small teams bring in 10s of thousands of dollars in research grants and school academic noteriety with no recognition or band of folks crying about fair treatment.
But he's getting a 29k a year education at a top 50 school with less than a 50% selection rate, plus benefits. Does he get that opportunity without football?
I just think it's funny that underpaid/no paid grad assistants and interns working on small teams bring in 10s of thousands of dollars in research grants and school academic noteriety with no recognition or band of folks crying about fair treatment.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:04 pm to 3rddownonthe8
The issue would be in controlling the boosters who would funnel them money for made up jobs that they don't even attend or by purchasing items at ridiculous prices just to circumvent/exploit the rules.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:04 pm to Che Boludo
quote:All of those people can get jobs.
I just think it's funny that underpaid/no paid grad assistants and interns working on small teams bring in 10s of thousands of dollars in research grants and school academic noteriety with no recognition or band of folks crying about fair treatment.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:05 pm to Che Boludo
quote:I don't have a problem with any of that. This is America.
The issue would be in controlling the boosters who would funnel them money for made up jobs that they don't even attend or by purchasing items at ridiculous prices just to circumvent/exploit the rules.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:13 pm to pvilleguru
Well that is an issue, hence my precarious rabbit hole.
It's not simple. I hope the stipens help with some of this.
It's not simple. I hope the stipens help with some of this.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:15 pm to pvilleguru
Not if they want to stay on the research team
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:27 pm to yaboytoococky
Most scholarship participants actually have to focus on schoolwork though and maintain a good GPA. College athletes need a 2.0
I am a former college athlete and the need to be paid argument is bullshite. We got plenty. If you don't have money to eat it is because you used your stipend on a car or drugs
I am a former college athlete and the need to be paid argument is bullshite. We got plenty. If you don't have money to eat it is because you used your stipend on a car or drugs
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:28 pm to JesusQuintana
The NCAA system is in fact a form of athletic slavery. The players have zero say in their use of likeness, transfer restrictions, health gudelines, etc. The lose all rights when they sign a NLOI. The "education" they get is not free. In fact they work than forty hours at football than school. Their scholarships are already built into the budget and therefore cost the school nothing. Coaches and administration get millions in money in perks, yet when the product being exploited asks for a share everyone flips out. Anyone who thinks football is a choice for many of these guys are stupid. They give up football there is a great Chance they'll be dead or in prison. Its not surprising a bunch of white dudes who've never seen let alone lived in severe poverty would get pissed when players want to make money off their skills. The players should be paid.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:29 pm to TJGator1215
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The NCAA system is in fact a form of athletic slavery. The players have zero say in their use of likeness, transfer restrictions, health gudelines, etc. The lose all rights when they sign a NLOI. The "education" they get is not free. In fact they work than forty hours at football than school. Their scholarships are already built into the budget
More than 40 hours a week?? I'm glad you think we worked that hard 
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:32 pm to TJGator1215
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The NCAA system is in fact a form of athletic slavery. The players have zero say in their use of likeness, transfer restrictions, health gudelines, etc. The lose all rights when they sign a NLOI. The "education" they get is not free. In fact they work than forty hours at football than school. Their scholarships are already built into the budget and therefore cost the school nothing. Coaches and administration get millions in money in perks, yet when the product being exploited asks for a share everyone flips out. Anyone who thinks football is a choice for many of these guys are stupid. They give up football there is a great Chance they'll be dead or in prison. Its not surprising a bunch of white dudes who've never seen let alone lived in severe poverty would get pissed when players want to make money off their skills. The players should be paid.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:33 pm to TJGator1215
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The NCAA system is in fact a form of athletic slavery. The players have zero say in their use of likeness, transfer restrictions, health gudelines, etc. The lose all rights when they sign a NLOI. The "education" they get is not free. In fact they work than forty hours at football than school. Their scholarships are already built into the budget and therefore cost the school nothing. Coaches and administration get millions in money in perks, yet when the product being exploited asks for a share everyone flips out. Anyone who thinks football is a choice for many of these guys are stupid. They give up football there is a great Chance they'll be dead or in prison. Its not surprising a bunch of white dudes who've never seen let alone lived in severe poverty would get pissed when players want to make money off their skills. The players should be paid.
Nobody force them, if they have no other talents, it is their problem, life is what it is, you adapt and overcome, or you get left behind.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:35 pm to tennvol
It is your individual duty to develop yorself in to something useful to society, if you can not, tough luck, meritocracy is the way to go!
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:35 pm to TJGator1215
They have a say as it is a conscious choice with a known set of existing conditions, which they can freely enter and leave.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:36 pm to TJGator1215
The scholarships are paid by the athletic department to the school at full cost.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:37 pm to lsupride87
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