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re: Is Tua the next Jeremy Johnson?

Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:53 am to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52656 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:53 am to
My biggest concern about Tua is him getting hurt. He runs hard, and tough, and while he is pretty strong, he is still kind of small, and will take some hard hits.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17264 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:57 am to
Thank goodness Nick Fairly doesn’t have any eligibility left.
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
8618 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:19 am to
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llfshoals


So this isn't valid?
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
8618 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:22 am to
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Son, it's 3 months before college football season even starts, and y'all are acting as nervous as a whore in church every time his name is mentioned.


Nervous, huh?

Looking at Auburn's schedule, I feel pretty confident in saying I'll have the best QB on the field in every game.

That includes Washington, Moo State, Ole Miss, Georgia & Alabama.
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
8618 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:24 am to
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You're confusing us with yall over Burrow. We are just simply making fun of yall hyping Tua the way JJ was hyped before he done anything.



I mean....how hard was this to figure out?? Jesus Christ, grow a set, tRant.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17264 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:35 am to
You still pull for a 4 loss team.
Just saying.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:37 am to
Natty Natty Natty Natty Natty Natty...lock
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21674 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:38 am to
I think it's funny that people think Tua only played one half of football last year. There's a reason people kept saying he was going to take Jalen's job. He played several halves of football last year, and did things most QB's can't do in just about every one of them.

He's going to make mistakes. But, he's also going to be a star.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6467 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:50 am to
yep

Tua proved himself very well all year long, every chance he got. There were those that said "yeah, but he accomplished all that when the other team was already beaten." in spite of the fact that he was often playing against the same defense, and immediately produced when Hurts did not.

Then, the beaten team in the national title game was Alabama. In the first half, the offense couldn't move the ball, which was typical of Jalen Hurts vs good defenses. Tua comes in the 2nd half and totally turns the game around. In case you didn't notice, the entire team, defense included, played better with him in the game because they knew that, now, they had a chance to win this game.

In fact, Tagovailoa was better during the season than Jalen Hurts and Jarrett Stidham.

Only 2 interceptions, and threw a td pass every 7 attempts. 175 qb rating. LINK

Hurts threw a td about every 15 attempts. 150.2 qb rating. LINK

Stidham threw a td about every 20.5 attempts. Qb rating of 151. LINK

So you can claim that Tua's accomplishments during the season were because he wasn't under pressure, or you can claim that his accomplishments were only in a half of football, but you can't claim both.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15364 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:50 am to
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So this isn't valid?
Unless you can produce JJ leading a historic comeback in a national title game, no it isn't.

You used to know things like that without me having to tell you.
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
8618 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:56 am to
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Unless you can produce JJ leading a historic comeback in a national title game, no it isn't.

You used to know things like that without me having to tell you.


Shoals, go to hell.
Posted by GirthBrooks62
The Booty House
Member since Oct 2017
1206 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 1:20 pm to
No
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15364 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 1:32 pm to
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Shoals, go to hell.
I've been told its current overlord is concerned I'll boot him out for being too nice.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 3:58 pm to
Brent Schaeffer 2.0 seems like a better comparison, at least skill wise.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13362 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 7:23 pm to
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In fact, Tagovailoa was better during the season than Jalen Hurts and Jarrett Stidham.

Only 2 interceptions, and threw a td pass every 7 attempts. 175 qb rating. LINK

Hurts threw a td about every 15 attempts. 150.2 qb rating. LINK

Stidham threw a td about every 20.5 attempts. Qb rating of 151. LINK
I love how Bama fans like to spin stats to make them look better than what they are.

Hurts only threw 1 INT per 254 Attempts (1 a season) and 1 INT to 17 TDs.

Tua threw 1 INT per 33 Attempts (1 in 24 when Bama wasn't up by atleast 15) (about a game worth of attempts) and 1 to 6 TDs (1 to 3 when Bama wasn't up by 15+).

Stidham threw 1 INT per 63 Attempts (about 1 in 2 games) and 1 to 3 TDs.

Tua had 11 TDs. 5 of which came against Mercer and Vanderbilt in garbage time. Only 8 of Tua Attempts came before halftime before teams quit and against 1st string) all year and he didn't play a snap against a ranked team besides UGA. When Bama was down by more than a score Tua QB rating dropped to 96.16. 8 of his 11 TDs came when Bama was up by 15+ points.

So when it comes game time against ranked teams (or not Mercer and Vandy) that Bama isn't up by 15 points somehow, playing against 1st string, and he is throwing INTs 1 or 2 times a game (and taking big sacks), then we will see how fast Bama fans start calling for Hurts or Bama's offense collapses. There's more to being a good QB than garbage time stats and hitting 1 wide open WR (no matter the game or its meaning).
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 7:39 pm
Posted by aufbfan
Member since Jan 2015
760 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 7:54 pm to
I think it’s a little early to anoint Tua just yet, but he was very impressive in the natty.

However, the Jeremy Johnson comparisons are laughable. JJ is/was a complete pussy who was terrified of contact and totally refused to put his body on the line for the program to gain a single yard. He embarrassed himself, our coaches, and our entire university.

Tua is nothing like Johnson.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 7:56 pm
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