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re: Is this the best uga team of all time?

Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:51 am to
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:51 am to
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WTF are you basing this on?


The facts. Check out his passer rating. We wouldn't be nearly as good with a less efficient qb.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:51 am to
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UGA is dead last in passing yards vs FBS opponents in the SEC. 4 picks in just 92 attempts.

To be fair, two of those picks were our 3rd string QB in garbage time.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:53 am to
Can you link me to that sportscenter right now?

Too funny.

Yeah. I'm so wrong and choose to be ignorant.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:03 pm to
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The facts. Check out his passer rating. We wouldn't be nearly as good with a less efficient qb.


Maybe, but if we're looking at FBS play, then Hurts is an elite passer too (being 2 points below Fromm) and Stidham is a freaking god (15 points higher than Fromm).
Posted by DawgHolliday
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:10 pm to
I really think people are focusing too much on the margin of victory against what is starting to look like a pretty decent ND team. That game was a lot closer on the scoreboard than it was on the field. UGA beat the ever loving frick out of ND that night, but kept committing stupid penalties to keep ND drives alive. Even many ND fans were saying they got physically dominated in that game. Shoulda/woulda/coulda...it’s a 1 point win against a team that was 4-8 last year...but that’s not a representation of the game that took place on the field. Touchdown Jesus thought the Romans were back.
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Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:14 pm to
Even If it didn't make the highlights on sportscenter as you incorrectly claimed, the importance of that scoring drive would have remained much more than you are willing to admit. Very odd for a uga fan to downplay it.
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:14 pm to
When he is only allowed to throw the ball with safe passes, they can beat the Vandy's and TNs of the SEC. What he does against AU , UF, GT and UK with the passing game will determine their season. All those Ds can stop the run.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 12:15 pm
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:16 pm to
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Maybe, but if we're looking at FBS play, then Hurts is an elite passer too (being 2 points below Fromm) and Stidham is a freaking god (15 points higher than Fromm).


All 3 are good qbs, which is partially why each team is in the top 10. It's no coincidence.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:16 pm to
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Maybe

Ha. Are you fishing for stats to make yourself feel better?

Fromm's QB efficiency improves in conference play to #6 in the country 184.24 (still #2 in conference behind Stidham).

Fwiw, Hurts QB efficiency drops to 133 in conference play.

QB is fine.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:22 pm to
I never said it didn't make sportscenter.

I said that a highlight reel for Fromm's best moments will not include a jump ball at the 20 yardline where the receiver does all the work.

It is not considered a game winner. Even the kick for Blankenship isn't considered a highlight reel game winner because of all the time left on the clock.

I may get your point. Someone has scored a point for UGA in every game which put us up. That is an important point in the game. But these aren't game winner highlight reels like we have from David Greene, Matt Stafford, Aaron Murray, and even Jacob Eason.

It just isn't the same. Give the kid time. He might get us a moment like that this season or next. But don't manufacture fake news. It is sad and desperate.
Posted by MikeAV8s
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:25 pm to
Could be, too many games to play yet to say. Florida, SC, Auburn , Tech and Kentucky "could" beat them, although I suspect Auburn and Tech being the only real threats. My orange and blue glasses see them losing to Auburn, but they may need cleaning. Ultimately the truest test will be against bama should they make the SECCG, beat them and I would say that they were probably the best.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:28 pm to
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All those Ds can stop the run.

Notre Dame, Miss St, & App St all have better run defenses than UF. And their stats include facing UGA already (just imagine where they'd be without UGA on their schedule).

Only Vandy and Tennessee show worse run defenses than UF.

Miss St was touting how they stopped LSU.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:29 pm to
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I said that a highlight reel for Fromm's best moments will not include a jump ball at the 20 yardline where the receiver does all the work.
It should be on his highlight reel. He put it up for his receiver to get it. Do we leave Aaron Rodgers' hail mary passes off of his reel?
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:32 pm to
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Are you fishing for stats to make yourself feel better?


No...?

Fromm's has been very efficient, but he's only throwing about 12-15 passes a game. I wasn't here to claim Hurts was an elite QB either, just that Fromm (while good) hasn't done anything to warrant classifying him as an "elite" QB.

Sorry, I'm not saying Fromm is some piece of garbage QB that should die in a fire. Saying "he's not elite" is not an equivalent to "he's not worth the average UGA's fan time to piss on to put out a fire". He might very well be the best QB in the SEC, and he might not still be what I call an "elite" QB. A really good one though.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:35 pm to
Sportscenter only shows a few plays from a game for their highlight reel, and they picked all the right ones. The ball was placed where and when it needed to be with the pressure coming and in a pressure situation. That's what good qbs do and smart football people recognize that instead of trying to minimalize it. I guess it's not a big deal to you until it's done with less than a minute left?
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:35 pm to
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Do we leave Aaron Rodgers' hail mary passes off of his reel?


The miracle in motown? 0 time on the clock. Thrown 70 yards into the end zone for the win?
That is the moment that Fromm lacks. A game winner.

Or his 55 yards with 0 time on the clock into the end zone in the playoffs against Arizona?

Are you envisioning Hobnail Boot? Michael Johnson? Run Lindsey Run? Eason had the throws last season to Ridley and McKenzie.
Does Fromm have that in him? That is the question.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:37 pm to
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, just that Fromm (while good) hasn't done anything to warrant classifying him as an "elite" QB


Who were you responding to? Who said elite? Do you hear voices?
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:40 pm to
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Who were you responding to? Who said elite? Do you hear voices?


Sorry, "elite" was used to define the offense (and defense, and special teams). "Phenomenal" was used to define the QB play. Which would probably be considered above "elite".
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:43 pm to
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smart football people recognize that instead of trying to minimalize it


Fake news.

Give Fromm time. Let's see what he's got. Quit giving the kid a bj because he threw a backshoulder pass with 3:30 left in a game.

Clutch would have led to a TD to keep disallow ND to drive for a field goal to win.
Clutch was the defense getting the 3 and out and then the sack/fumble on the next possession.

Give Fromm time. Let's see what he's got.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:50 pm to
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Does he have the ability to make a 4th quarter comeback? That is the only question on him that UGA does not have a clue about. We have played with a lead all year.


Except that one time we didn't have a lead? You should clarify and say last 1-2 minutes comeback because Your original question has been answered.

Also, Recognizing the importance of that drive is far from giving a qb a bj. Please Keep you gay thoughts off the board.

Thanks, secrant
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