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re: Is this not the definition of targeting?
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:49 am to lsufball19
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:49 am to lsufball19
As I stated (which you deleted)...in the pic I would say "judgement call".
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:54 am to ALhunter
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If this is targeting then there would be 10-15 targeting penalties per game as runners fight for an extra yard or two at the end of runs.
Your team is Auburn.
You are poorly coached and poorly disciplined.
Of course you would think this. Lol
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:58 am to meansonny
The defensive player led with the crown of his helmet. It’s the pure definition of targeting. Anyone who doesn’t see that is blind or full of shite, or both.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 10:16 am to Deacon Reds
targeting
the inept or corrupt officials didn't call it. That same inept or corrupt crew didn't call (bogus) interference till McKinstry was about the 40 yard line after the interception that would have sealed the game
the inept or corrupt officials didn't call it. That same inept or corrupt crew didn't call (bogus) interference till McKinstry was about the 40 yard line after the interception that would have sealed the game
This post was edited on 11/15/22 at 10:19 am
Posted on 11/15/22 at 10:35 am to meansonny
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Your team is Auburn.
You are poorly coached and poorly disciplined.
It's unfortunate you're upset but this is the last effort I can make to help educate you on how the rules have changed. I know there's been a lot of confusion around the new targeting rules but hopefully this helps. Targeting on a non-defenseless player must be contact with the apex (meaning very top) and a small 6" circle drawn around that top. It's for the tackler's protection not the runner. Practically speaking you have to lower your helmet and "spear" the runner with the very top to get a call this year. You may not like the change but you'll have to take your grievance up with the NCAA.
With multiple camera angles and HD replay, a team of professionals with the rules at their fingertips decided you're wrong. See the below link. I'm viewing this impartially and objectively based on the rule changes... This impacts your team and therefore your judgement is biased. I'll also note that I haven't lived in the southeast since I was a child so have literally zero interaction with GA/TN fans nor do I care about the outcome of a GA/TN game.
Long Targeting Rule Change Explanation
Personally I think that targeting should go out the window when the offensive player is lowering his helmet and diving/falling forward. Nearly impossible to hit someone that low without lowering the helmet. Crazy how much these rules have changed the game and continue to cause confusion.
This post was edited on 11/15/22 at 10:38 am
Posted on 11/15/22 at 10:40 am to Deacon Reds
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The defensive player led with the crown of his helmet.
Yeah but here's the thing. He really didn't. Also, you have to make contact with the crown for it to be a penalty. There was no contact with the crown of the helmet. The portion of the helmet with the name plate isn't the crown.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:17 am to Deacon Reds
Stetson definitely led with the crown of the helmet. At least the Tenn player pulled back so only the front of his helmet hit.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:25 am to ALhunter
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and a small 6" circle drawn around that top
Umm. Nice lesson. Do you know the difference between a 6" circle and 6 inch radius?
Auburn education, folks. Lol
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It's for the tackler's protection not the runner.
I've posted this twice. The defender dropped his head.
It is a 12 inch circle from the highest point on the helmet (which is actually more front than back when viewing the helmet from above).
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:29 am to Deacon Reds
The target call is ruining the game. Defenders don't have a chance.... the laws of physics still apply.
frick targeting, let them play! If its a dirty hit fine, those are easily recognizable.. tackling someone 3 inches to high isn't targeting, but it is often called. It's BS.
frick targeting, let them play! If its a dirty hit fine, those are easily recognizable.. tackling someone 3 inches to high isn't targeting, but it is often called. It's BS.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:30 am to cmayes56
It is bad coaching, to be honest.
Keep your head up and you probably will never have to worry.
It isn't a shocker that the best team in tackling (UGA) does not struggle with dropping our head. We get our head across the defender with eyes up.
Keep your head up and you probably will never have to worry.
It isn't a shocker that the best team in tackling (UGA) does not struggle with dropping our head. We get our head across the defender with eyes up.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:52 am to meansonny
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Umm. Nice lesson. Do you know the difference between a 6" circle and 6 inch radius?
Auburn education, folks. Lol
I'm quite aware of what a radius is. "Dropping your head" is not the definition of targeting, it is an indicator. Since you're having extreme difficulty we'll break this down fully one more time.
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ARTICLE 3. No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul. (Rule 9-6) (A.R. 9-1-3-I)
OK great. If the TN player made contact with the crown then the GA player certainly did. I note there's nothing in the definition about the player being a ball carrier or an offensive vs. defensive player.
Now let's look at the indicators.
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Launch-a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
Neither player.
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A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
Neither player
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Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Both players lowered their pad level for the contact.
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Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet
Both players did this and arguably the GA player got lower with the TN player just matching the pad level of the GA player.
So if you want this to be a penalty on TN, it's definitely a penalty on GA and they offset. If you're so convinced it was targeting, why do you think rules experts who do this professionally with HD replay disagree? Beyond this point I'll have to take it that you're being disingenuous for the purposes of pot stirring.
Since you went there, I didn't attend any SEC school but I won't badmouth their educational standards.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:57 am to cmayes56
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The target call is ruining the game. Defenders don't have a chance.... the laws of physics still apply.
frick targeting, let them play! If its a dirty hit fine, those are easily recognizable.. tackling someone 3 inches to high isn't targeting, but it is often called. It's BS.
They should have an exception for the targeting rules when players are trying to fight for extra yards or fall forward/dive. Impossible to tackle in a situation like that without meeting the pad level of the offensive player and it would eliminate weird melts like this one.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 12:06 pm to ALhunter
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Impossible to tackle in a situation like that without meeting the pad level
Impossible. Impossible.
Lol
You don't have a clue what the crown of the helmet is.
You don't have a clue how tackling is taught at the college level.
I don't want kids tossed out of games unnecessarily. Keep your head up and get your head across and you won't be in this discussion.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:39 pm to meansonny
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You don't have a clue what the crown of the helmet is.
You don't have a clue how tackling is taught at the college level.
I played college football.
This post was edited on 11/15/22 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:50 pm to HurricaneTiger
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Stetson definitely led with the crown of the helmet. At least the Tenn player pulled back so only the front of his helmet hit.
You seem to have visual or mental issues.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 4:20 pm to ALhunter
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I played college football.
First of all, no you didn't.
Secondly, I want you to look at this photo and tell ne, with a straight face, that Stetson, who was going for the pylon, targeted, rather than the defender. If that's your honest conclusion, I have some real estate that I'd like to sell you.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 4:21 pm to Deacon Reds
Georgia fans are such pussies. Even when they are on top they whine like they little bitches they are
Posted on 11/15/22 at 4:22 pm to TigerLunatik
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I think there are some trolls in this thread. Blatant evidence has been posted and they're still saying the same shite as they said on page 1.
I think the ratio of reasonable posters vs trolls is out of balance on the rant right now. Hell, I don't have to agree with someone, but at least be fricking reasonable.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 4:33 pm to AuburnTigers
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Georgia fans are such pussies. Even when they are on top they whine like they little bitches they are
Pussies been spankin' that Aubue arse since Moses was a child.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:02 pm to Deacon Reds
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First of all, no you didn't.
Secondly, I want you to look at this photo and tell ne, with a straight face, that Stetson, who was going for the pylon, targeted, rather than the defender. If that's your honest conclusion, I have some real estate that I'd like to sell you.
I'm not sure what to tell you... I did.
I see two guys in a race for the pylon. The runner lowered his pad level and dropped his head in anticipation of contact. The defensive player matched the runner's pad level and hit him the best he could to redirect the runner's forward momentum. I see a normal football play on both sides.
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I think there are some trolls in this thread. Blatant evidence has been posted and they're still saying the same shite as they said on page 1.
Sure seems like it.
This post was edited on 11/15/22 at 6:04 pm
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