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Is there some kind of strategy to the DL lining up a full yard off the the LOS?

Posted on 9/5/22 at 4:24 pm
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 4:24 pm
Napier was asked about it during his press conference today and refused to answer it.


Posted by Hugh McElroy
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 4:25 pm to
It sometimes helps with stunts, but that seems excessive.
Posted by silverstreak
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 4:26 pm to
He's playing 3d chess
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 4:26 pm to
apparently, Florida did it the whole game.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 4:28 pm to
plenty


it's a read the OL first step scheme

also doesn't give the OL help in reading their responsibility on who to block
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

It sometimes helps with stunts



and yes, it causes OL confusion, and then a blitzing linebacker comes in at 90 miles an hour


oops
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 4:29 pm to
We're they trying to guess the snap count? Maybe it helps get yourself back in line if your jump. Idk just a guess.
Posted by Pastor Mike
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 4:34 pm to
Orlando Sentinel

Saturday Down South
This post was edited on 9/5/22 at 4:36 pm
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 4:45 pm to
Pastor Mike, neither of your links explain or answer the OP's question. Additionally, one has a pay wall.

Try harder next time.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 4:46 pm to
Wild guess but maybe it affords them the opportunity to flinch forward anticipating snap counts without getting caught offsides.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 4:50 pm to
Has he had a problem with neutral zone infractions in the past?
This post was edited on 9/5/22 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 4:56 pm to
nope, the DL can read better

if it's a run, the OLinemen are going to step either forward, or diagonal (down or angle block) or at a 90 degree angle (pulling)

if it's a pass, they are going to pop up in pass protection, and the yard off gives the DL a chance to read that and to gain momentum and speed to begin rushing the passer

I'm guessing they only backed off during passing downs, the proverbial 3rd and 8, etc



In other words, if you're an offensive lineman popping up and passing blocking at the snap, you would already want the cushion between the DL to be short. You don't want them getting a free yard of speed momentum on the rush.

This post was edited on 9/5/22 at 5:01 pm
Posted by DawginSC
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 5:02 pm to
Odd.

I would thing this would be a disadvantage if the OL is aggressive in run blocking (letting them get momentum leading into the block), but might help the DL in the pass rush. Maybe there's something I'm not thinking of regarding leverage/getting low that might help the DL by being further off the line.
Posted by DawginSC
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 5:04 pm to
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if it's a run, the OLinemen are going to step either forward, or diagonal (down or angle block) or at a 90 degree angle (pulling)

But if it's a power run (straight ahead blocking), wouldn't this give an advantage to the OL? They get to build momentum into their blocks and rock the DL back on their heels... giving the RB 1-2 yards "for free".
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 5:08 pm to
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I'm guessing they only backed off during passing downs, the proverbial 3rd and 8, etc





It's 1st and 10 in the pic the OP provided.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

But if it's a power run (straight ahead blocking), wouldn't this give an advantage to the OL? They get to build momentum into their blocks and rock the DL back on their heels... giving the RB 1-2 yards "for free".


that's why I said they probably only did this on suspected passing downs
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 5:12 pm to
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that's why I said they probably only did this on suspected passing downs


the pic in the OP is 1st and 10.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

It's 1st and 10 in the pic the OP provided.



then maybe they have tendencies of when the opposition passes on first down and 10


breakdowns are a tendency discovery process for a reason
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 5:13 pm to
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the pic in the OP is 1st and 10.



then the tendencies might have indicated throwing on 1st and ten


who is going to run a short yardage play on 1st and 10? Nobody



and ETA, I already covered the reads the DL would make if it was a run (straight, angle, 90 degree)
This post was edited on 9/5/22 at 5:16 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 5:22 pm to
look at the formation: TE right, slot left, one offset back

what would you be looking for

so if it's a run, it's probably going to be an inverted veer with angle blocks and someone pulling and kicking out

if they're smashing up the gut in one back on 1st and ten, that offensive coordinator will be fired by week five
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