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re: Is there a better, more proven back-up QB than USC's Dylan Thompson?

Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by jfran23
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:22 pm to
Please give names.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:23 pm to
Dylan Thompson is more seasoned, but please show me a better read option fake than this:

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Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:32 pm to
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Um at this point I would say no. There's a number of backups around the league that are more highly rated . Of course most of that has to do with Thompson coming here as a basketball recruit. So I would say no.


This isn't exactly true...Dylan was recruited by Dave Odom when he was a sophomore, but all USC fans know that Odom hasn't been at USC for several years. Darrin Horn did not recruit Dylan heavily. Dylan came to a FB camp, and Spurrier offered him on the spot: by the time he committed to USC for football, he was being recruited strictly as a FB player by Spurrier's staff....

Here was a pic taken at the 2009 FB camp, where SPurrier offered and Dylan committed all at once:

This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 4:37 pm
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22526 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:32 pm to
This is how I'd rank the current QB situation:

1. JFF
2. Murray
3. McCarron
4. Mettenburger
5. Shaw
6. Wallace
7. Driskel
8. Russell
9. Thompson
10. Franklin

Thompson is more proven than the options at AU, Ark, UT, Vandy, UK.

EDIT: had driskel way too high.
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 4:34 pm
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7427 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:46 pm to
I was trolling for a Carolina bite.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37310 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:47 pm to
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I realize the guy was playing WR, but if he was such an awesome backup (and clearly better than Allen), why wasn't he playing his natural position?


he switched b/c he knew he wouldn't play over tyler and wanted to actually have playing time and he's an athlete who can contribute. he played basketball for us too last season.

right now he's back in the mix at qb. he had what i think was our prettiest pass play this past season- basically the one highlight

i don't know that's he's better than thompson but i don't recall seeing him (thompson) play much. i wouldn't have an issue saying he's better than shaw tho- i just don't find him (shaw) an impressive qb at all.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64416 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:48 pm to
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Didn't he switch to wideout?

He's back to QB this year. We didn't run a mobile QB friendly system and he's a good athlete. The coaches wanted him on the field. He wasn't going to start over T-Will so they put him at WR. With T-Will gone and a new offense, he'll give Allen a real run for starting QB this year.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:51 pm to
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Probably. why ya askin meh??
Just looking to talk some football. No trolling or flaming, just simple discussion. Basketball tourney hasn't started and Baseball still hasn't gotten interesting.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Brandon Mitchell says hi.

ETA: He had a QB rating of 154.3 in 2011. 22-33 passing.
Well, he threw 24 of those 32 against Southwest Mo. State & New Mexico. He threw 5 passes against Alabama, completing 2, and tossing a Pick.
Not sure how you can say he's better than Thompson (because there's nothing to back that up) but you're homer Drewbie so I try not to take anything you say seriously.

But you know, honestly, Mitchell could very well end up being better than Thompson and could be a great SEC QB this year. But again, there's nothing that suggests that right now.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 5:11 pm to
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i don't know that's he's better than thompson but i don't recall seeing him (thompson) play much.

You should have watched our game against Clemson or perhaps the Outback Bowl against UM. Pretty much flawless games by him.
quote:

i wouldn't have an issue saying he's better than shaw tho- i just don't find him (shaw) an impressive qb at all.

You're one of the few. Many believe Shaw is the 4th best QB in tSEC this year. He could leave USC as our best QB ever. He's 17-3 as a starter and has a career completion rate of 67% w/ 3,627 yards and 1125 yards rushing. 43 total TDs (11 rushing) and 15 INTs.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 5:24 pm to
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Dylan Thompson is more seasoned, but please show me a better read option fake than this.
Well DT is a gun-slinging pocket passer and we don't run the zone-read with him, just Shaw. But if you're really itching to see some good read option fakes just look up some highlights of Shaw, I'm sure you'll be impressed.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37310 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 5:26 pm to
I have this weird thing with Shaw- in a way he's one of my fave non hogs in the sec now bc he is a scrapper. But he also seems like a player who's not naturally a qb yet he plays qb. He's definitely done well so there's no arguing on his success just isn't, IMO, someone with typical good qb attributes.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26151 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 5:28 pm to
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Got his first start against ECU after Shaw was injured and threw for 330 yards w/ 3 TDs and no INTs.
Second start came against Clemson and in a clutch performance he threw for 310 yards w/ 3 TDs and 1 INT.


79th and 107th in pass defense last year....
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

Brandon Mitchell says hi.

ETA: He had a QB rating of 154.3 in 2011. 22-33 passing. Hasn't played as much as above mentioned QB, but I'd bet a lot of money that he's better.


2011 is a long ways away, and under in a great QB system coached by a great QB coach. Neither that coach nor that system is at Arky anymore...
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 5:34 pm to
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You're one of the few. Many believe Shaw is the 4th best QB in tSEC this year. He could leave USC as our best QB ever. He's 17-3 as a starter and has a career completion rate of 67% w/ 3,627 yards and 1125 yards rushing. 43 total TDs (11 rushing) and 15 INTs.


In 1.5 seasons....
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
33273 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 5:43 pm to
Stephen Rivers is the only answer
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21829 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 5:50 pm to
52% completions?
Posted by CarolinaCock
South Carolina
Member since Jun 2012
2652 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 6:39 pm to
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This isn't exactly true...Dylan was recruited by Dave Odom when he was a sophomore, but all USC fans know that Odom hasn't been at USC for several years. Darrin Horn did not recruit Dylan heavily. Dylan came to a FB camp, and Spurrier offered him on the spot: by the time he committed to USC for football, he was being recruited strictly as a FB player by Spurrier's staff...


Thanks for clarifying
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
41933 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 7:48 pm to
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Congrats on having the 15th best QB in the conference.


Thankfully, your ignorant post will not be held against all Aggies. It makes you look pretty bad though.

Would you care for one of us to explain it to you or do you already know how stupid your post makes you look and recognize the error of your ways?
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 8:06 pm to
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Is there a better, more proven back-up QB than USC's Dylan Thompson?


No, right now USC is in the "best" situation in NCAAFB if for an awful reason starting QB was unable to go.

You already mentioned the stats, which are decent and certainly good for a backup, but to me the biggest thing is the way he came into games and the conditions in which he did that.

He was told throughout the spring, fall camp and beginning of the season that he was a backup. Then had 3 days to prepare to start against ECU (not a great team though). He came out and threw for over 300 yards, 3 TD's and 0 turnovers.

Then, Shaw comes back the next week, takes the "starter" practice reps to prepare for UAB, but Shaw gets injured and Thompson comes back in throwing for almost 180 yards, 2 TD's and 0 turnovers on 10 passes.

Dylan then plays sparingly, if at all, for the majority of the season, but Shaw is injured again and he's told the week of clemson preparation that he's going to be the QB to face a Top 11 ranked rival team on the road for a Saturday night game. He responds with putting up over 300 yards and 2 TD's, as well as some decent rushing for a passing QB.

Finally, it's the Outback Bowl, facing a Top 25 Michigan team with a Top 12 Overall ranked defense. Shaw is doing well, but gets a little shaken up in the 2nd half, so Dylan comes in and throws 10 passes for 117 yards and 2 TD's with 0 turnovers.

What this shows to me is that Dylan prepares for the games, even if he's not starting, really well. I'm not the slightest bit nervous to have our "backup" QB go up against any team in the country, b/c I've seen him beat 2 ranked teams ON THE ROAD. There aren't ANY other programs that can say that going into next season.

This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 8:10 pm
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