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Posted on 4/17/18 at 1:59 pm to TeLeFaWx
"If Gus Malzahn can win the West multiple times, surely you realize Jimbo will. Chad Morris will get Arkansas to a Kevin Sumlin level, which is a little bit above your potential, so I don't get why that upsets you."
Dude you are Aggy. Yall will frick it up somehow. It's in your DNA.
Dude you are Aggy. Yall will frick it up somehow. It's in your DNA.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 3:08 pm to TeLeFaWx
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If Gus Malzahn can win the West multiple times, surely you realize Jimbo will.
It will be fun to see how the Jimbo experiment plays out. Clearly you think he is a significant upgrade over Malzahn, but I'm not even sure he's an upgrade over Sumlin. It just has that feel of a team that significantly over-reached to hire an ok coach. Fran 2.0
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:28 pm to NielsBoar
Clearly Franchione has a substantial number of conference championships and a national championship like Fisher does.
Franchione’s best ever finish was 10-3 at Alabama.
Franchione’s best ever finish was 10-3 at Alabama.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:41 pm to AU24
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Is the SEC West really a tough division?
Yeah it really is if you're a team not from Alabama.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 5:16 pm to AU24
I was thinking the other day about how lucky everyone's been in the SEC-W, with the exception of Arkansas, and maybe Ole Miss, over the past 10-15 years.
Alabama - Not really doing much until Saban took over. Franchione seemed to be righting the ship some, but then bolts for A&M. So they hire a struggling NFL coach, who goes on to surpass all expectations.
Auburn - Makes a really underwhelming choice, by replacing a sliding Tubbs with the Iowa State coach. Unsurprisingly, he struggles, but hires his own replacement before Arkansas can bring him back home.
MSU - Mullen's a great coach, but if others believed he would have so much success at MSU, then I'm sure they would have hired him.
Texas A&M - Manziel.
LSU - Miles kept it going longer than many of us thought he would.
Ole Miss - So desperate that they hire our fired coach, who actually does quite well at first. They then replace him with a high school coach who cheated them to success. I'm not sure if you can call cheating "luck", though.
Arkansas - We replace Nutt with Petrino and all is going well, much to the chagrin of everyone, everywhere. Petrino crashes and so we hire the most successful current coach in the Big 10, but he fails. I'm not even including JLS, who we were essentially forced into hiring, thanks to Petrino's timing. I guess you could say that Arkansas was lucky to hire 2 highly successful coaches, but neither turned out well in the long run.
Lot's of luck in this division.
Alabama - Not really doing much until Saban took over. Franchione seemed to be righting the ship some, but then bolts for A&M. So they hire a struggling NFL coach, who goes on to surpass all expectations.
Auburn - Makes a really underwhelming choice, by replacing a sliding Tubbs with the Iowa State coach. Unsurprisingly, he struggles, but hires his own replacement before Arkansas can bring him back home.
MSU - Mullen's a great coach, but if others believed he would have so much success at MSU, then I'm sure they would have hired him.
Texas A&M - Manziel.
LSU - Miles kept it going longer than many of us thought he would.
Ole Miss - So desperate that they hire our fired coach, who actually does quite well at first. They then replace him with a high school coach who cheated them to success. I'm not sure if you can call cheating "luck", though.
Arkansas - We replace Nutt with Petrino and all is going well, much to the chagrin of everyone, everywhere. Petrino crashes and so we hire the most successful current coach in the Big 10, but he fails. I'm not even including JLS, who we were essentially forced into hiring, thanks to Petrino's timing. I guess you could say that Arkansas was lucky to hire 2 highly successful coaches, but neither turned out well in the long run.
Lot's of luck in this division.
This post was edited on 4/17/18 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 4/17/18 at 5:42 pm to TeLeFaWx
Nah
Posted on 4/17/18 at 5:46 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
It's the expectations and situation he is walking into. There are a lot of decent coaches who could take advantage of a rich recruiting area combined with a weak conference and back door their way into a national championship game. They beat Duke to win the ACC that year. They beat a good Clemson team, and a Miami team that didn't beat a single ranked opponent.
Does that translate to success in the SEC West? Maybe. I just don't think the evidence of Jimbo being an upper echelon coach is all that strong.
The Fran 2.0 comment was more for effect.
Does that translate to success in the SEC West? Maybe. I just don't think the evidence of Jimbo being an upper echelon coach is all that strong.
The Fran 2.0 comment was more for effect.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 6:25 pm to NielsBoar
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Maybe. I just don't think the evidence of Jimbo being an upper echelon coach is all that strong.
Florida State under Bobby Bowden once the ACC moved to two divisions: 8-5, 7-6, 7-6, 9-4, 7-6
2 division titles, 1 conference title
Florida State under Jimbo Fisher's first five seasons: 10-4, 9-4, 12-2, 14-0, 13-1
4 division titles, 3 conference titles, 1 national title, 1 playoff berth
Posted on 4/17/18 at 6:27 pm to ZeusStamos
quote:so true
That 2013 run that Auburn went on was a complete fluke, and the 2017 Auburn team could only win at home.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 8:51 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Jimbo will win the division multiple times during his 10 year contract at A&M.
sorry, no credits are given for boasting about the future. you have to actually win one before they count. I know it's tough to do you texas brag thing when you haven't ever won shite but you embarrass yourself by bragging about stuff that never happened. be humble, you're from texas.
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