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re: Is Oklahoma A Top 10 Football Job Anymore?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:44 am to Wishbone85
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:44 am to Wishbone85
OU will be just fine. I don't know if your current HC is the right guy, but if he's not, all it takes is hiring the right one and you're back in the championship hunt. You're no different than Alabama, as long as the right coach is in place, you're going to be a championship caliber program.
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:47 am to TrueLefty
I wouldn't say OU was ever a "top ten" football job to begin with. This is not discounting their success - they're without question one of the true bluebloods of the sport. But if you measure what the best "football" jobs have to offer, most notably, tremendous talent within an arm's reach, OU falls behind several of its peers - Texas, Bama, Georgia, Florida, SC, Ohio State, etc.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:47 am to SidewalkTiger
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Notre Dame has been in the national picture for awhile now
LOL!
Under Kelly? They lost every major boll they played in and their record vs top 10 was atrocious.
Obviously made a big leap last year and we'll see if they have staying power.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:49 am to jangalang
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Is it tough to recruit at Oklahoma? Just curious.
I wouldn't say it's "tough." But it's definitely more challenging at OU than many other SEC schools simply because of the lack of in-state talent (Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Tennessee, and Florida). OU makes up for this, or has made up for it historically, by heavily recruiting Texas, specifically northern Texas.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:49 am to jangalang
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Is it tough to recruit at Oklahoma? Just curious.
double post
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:50 am to TrueLefty
Oklahoma will always be a top job for a FB coach. Doesn't matter how down they may be right now. Few programs can match the history of the Sooners.
They are down now but trust me when I say it won't last very long. They have always bounced back
They are down now but trust me when I say it won't last very long. They have always bounced back
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:51 am to BurgTiger
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For NIL and recruiting footprint today they are unquestionably behind the following teams and have no chance of stealing their head coach:
1. Alabama
2. Texas
3. Florida
4. LSU
5. Georgia
6. A&M
They are in the SAME neighborhood as:
7. Auburn
8. Tennessee
9. Ole Miss
I disagree as to Auburn and Tennessee, who have a better proximity to elite talent than OU.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:52 am to NWLA_Bama
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Alabama was deemed "dead, never to return" then they got the right coach and within three years they were back on the map.
I know 2006 was a long time ago, but no one except a few smoothbrain LSU posters on this message board truly thought the Alabama football program was "dead and never to return."
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:55 am to NWLA_Bama
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OU will be just fine. I don't know if your current HC is the right guy, but if he's not, all it takes is hiring the right one and you're back in the championship hunt. You're no different than Alabama, as long as the right coach is in place, you're going to be a championship caliber program.
I agree OU will be just fine in the long run and will eventually compete for conference championships.
But I strongly disagree OU is "no different than Alabama." OU doesn't have the national name recognition, proximity to local talent, or money in its football program as the Tide.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:57 am to Tornado Alley
I just think getting the right coach can change a lot of that.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:59 am to NWLA_Bama
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I just think getting the right coach can change a lot of that.
Getting the right coach is of vital importance, but OU does not, and has not, had the same national branding Bama has nor are they close to as much elite talent as Bama.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:04 am to CharlotteSooner
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You may find this difficult to believe, but Oklahoma has always been located in the same geographical place in which it exists today.
Yep. A hapless shithole. But for some strange reason good players wanted (emphasize past-tense) to go play there.
Now they don't.
Can y'all add?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:06 am to Tornado Alley
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Getting the right coach is of vital importance, but OU does not, and has not, had the same national branding Bama has nor are they close to as much elite talent as Bama.
Those are fair points. We'll see. I don't know if Venables is the right guy. Great DC, but still unproven as a HC. I know they had a ton of injuries, but they still monkey stomped out butts with all those injuries.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:07 am to Tornado Alley
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I agree OU will be just fine in the long run
Then NIL better go away
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:08 am to RD Dawg
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Obviously made a big leap last year and we'll see if they have staying power.
They didn't make a "big leap" last year, the thresholds were lowered.
They lost to a G5 and would have missed a 4 team playoff.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:12 am to NWLA_Bama
I think we’ll be fine. We had a 23 year run of greatness. Then Riley bolted and gutted team - he regressed each year. BV had to rebuild from ground up. He has vastly improved the defense but made some bad OC hires which set him back. Combined with changing conferences and given one of the hardest schedules of any team, it was a letdown. D was still great but could not cover for O.
But this year, the D will be even better. The biggest gain will be offense. Got an outstanding portal QB and OC. Hired some other O positions. Have Oline experience. Brought in some good O talent. If they gain like I think then combined with D, the conference better watch out
But this year, the D will be even better. The biggest gain will be offense. Got an outstanding portal QB and OC. Hired some other O positions. Have Oline experience. Brought in some good O talent. If they gain like I think then combined with D, the conference better watch out
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:12 am to CharlotteSooner
I understand that the love of the game forces some of you to refuse to connect the dots. I've seen Sooner fans of both ilk. Some knew they were done 4 years ago when this NIL stuff was just heresay.
And some cling on for dear life.
Let me spell Oklahoma for you:
N-E-B-R-A-S-K-A
And some cling on for dear life.
Let me spell Oklahoma for you:
N-E-B-R-A-S-K-A
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:14 am to NWLA_Bama
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Stop, just stop. If you don't think UTx was cheating just as much as OU and Alabama you are truly an idiot. Texas cheated and lost, while OU and Alabama cheated and won. It's a gamble, even in cheating. Cheating doesn't guarantee success.
It has always fascinated me that these Texas goofs never consider that their two best coaches in history had ties to Oklahoma.
Royal should have never been considered to be the coach at Texas because his mentor was Bud Wilkinson... whom Texans consider a notorious cheater.
And Mack Brown? He coached at OU and was actually named in one of them major infractions in the NCAA's 1988 "payback" probation for the NCAA lawsuit that OU won.
And as far as cheating itself goes? Marcus Dupree might have been the most famous recruit of the 20th century... When the smoke settled...OU got him... but it was Texas that got busted for recruiting violations by the NCAA.
Tony Degrate went on record and said he was paid by boosters while at Texas. Chris Simms said he got money. Colt McCoy's wife talked about it. Ramonce Taylor got caught dealing drugs out of a car that was being paid for by his HS coach and boosters from his home town.
The fact of the matter is that the University of Texas didn't cheat... It's boosters did. And that is how it worked at every other major school.
Brian Bosworth basically said it in his book. He said OU didn't give him any money. He said the boosters gave him money and Switzer tried hard not to look.
Texas fans seem to think that every decision players make is predicated on how wonderful Austin is, how wonderful UTexas is and all that.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:14 am to OU Guy
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I think we’ll be fine. We had a 23 year run of greatness.
As long as you can be happy recollecting on that 23 year run of greatness, then yes, you will be fine.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:18 am to TrueLefty
This question would be way more pertinent if it came from a school that won a natty since we did. That's several schools. Mizzou isn't one of them. Hell in your best year EVA, we beat your arse twice.
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