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Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:24 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Funes was embezzling money not paying players.
I'm just going by what is being reported by several sources
"The NCAA scrutiny of LSU has expanded to include the football program, as the school confirmed on Friday afternoon that it has been working with the NCAA about an “ongoing inquiry” into a six-figure payment to the father of a former player.
An LSU booster named John Paul Funes, who pleaded guilty to stealing more than a half-million dollars from a foundation where he worked as a fundraiser, paid $180,000 to a man that Yahoo Sports confirmed on Friday is the father of former Tigers star lineman Vadal Alexander."
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:25 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Are we now saying LSU is responsible for any and all transactions involving anyone who ever played for LSU and their families?
The issue here is that the player was on the team while the father was being paid.
If he is a booster.... YES SIR. LSU is responsible.
IF the NCAA walked away from things like this, it's open season by boosters everywhere.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:26 am to canyon
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Neither did LSU
Doesn't matter. BAMA was hammered. Logan Young also died....
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:27 am to Jjdoc
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The issue here is that the player was on the team while the father was being paid.
If he is a booster.... YES SIR. LSU is responsible.
gotcha. so, if you're kid gets arrested for selling drugs, you are at fault. makes sense.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:28 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Which LSU athletes have been paid? What evidence do you have Funes was acting as a booster while he was embezzling money?
There is a court case and evidently it's now public.
Ask OLE MISS what it's like to have the NCAA set up base at Ole Miss. They aren't getting those top classes anymore.
This is now a multi sport issue.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:29 am to Jjdoc
two different things
still no proof
still no proof
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:29 am to John Milner
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I'm just going by what is being reported by several sources
No, you’re jumping ahead and making assumptions.
Of course the NCAA is going to ask about it, but based on what we know there’s no payment to a player and the payment to Vadal’s dad was let of embezzlement and there’s no know connection to his son’s status as a player.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 9:30 am
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:29 am to Jjdoc
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This is now a multi sport issue.
Very true
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:30 am to John Milner
what I wonder is why did the guy bring the LSU program into this. I mean, so he gets busted for embezzlement, but why even mention his payments to LSU players or their family (the Cecil Newton rule closed that parent loophole)
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:30 am to tigerdup07
quote:The NCAA wants their cut of the pie. That is all it is.
is it because of the amount of money?
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:30 am to tigerdup07
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in this case, it should be "lack of institutional knowledge". which is not the fault of the university. right?
It’s the same thing,
We had zero knowledge of our rogue booster either.
Both he and the athlete admitted that was the case,
The NCAA’s take is that a university should run an impenetrable ship and know what’s going on with every booster at all times,
It’s a next to impossible standard to meet; but it’s the standard, nonetheless.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:30 am to Jjdoc
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There is a court case and evidently it's now public.
Ask OLE MISS what it's like to have the NCAA set up base at Ole Miss. They aren't getting those top classes anymore.
This is now a multi sport issue.
Hopes and wants
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:32 am to Draconian Sanctions
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you’re jumping ahead and making assumptions.
uhh, that was a direct quote from the article.
"The NCAA scrutiny of LSU has expanded to include the football program, as the school confirmed on Friday afternoon that it has been working with the NCAA about an “ongoing inquiry” into a six-figure payment to the father of a former player.
An LSU booster named John Paul Funes, who pleaded guilty to stealing more than a half-million dollars from a foundation where he worked as a fundraiser, paid $180,000 to a man that Yahoo Sports confirmed on Friday is the father of former Tigers star lineman Vadal Alexander."
sports.yahoo.com/new-revelations-expand-ls-us-ncaa-issues
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:32 am to tigerdup07
quote:This is the NCAA we’re talking about
so, if you're kid gets arrested for selling drugs, you are at fault. makes sense.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:33 am to EKG
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It’s the same thing,
Funes embezzling money for his own ends has nothing to do with any LSU players.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:34 am to John Milner
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uhh, that was a direct quote from the article.
No it’s not
Again you realize that a business transaction, legal or illegal under the law, isn’t automatically an NCAA violation just because it involves a parent of a player, right?
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:35 am to Draconian Sanctions
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How was he acting as a booster while embezzling money?
Where he got the money is not relevant to what he did with the money.... Which was to pay a team player's father....
That's very "illegal" in terms of NCAA.
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Do you honestly believe any and all business transactions, legal or otherwise, between an LSU fan and a relative of an LSU player to be an NCAA violation? Do you really not see how absurd that would be?
The NCAA states you can not. Period. They will investigate this while looking for anything else.
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I know you really want LSU to be hit with penalties but at least stop to think about what you’re saying before you say it.
Nope. I really want cheating to come to an end but I'm not naive enough to believe it will. Thus the NCAA... and rules.
If this goes unchecked every team in America will have the blueprint to do the same.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:37 am to Jjdoc
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The NCAA states you can not. Period.
Link me the specific NCAA bylaw on this
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:38 am to Draconian Sanctions
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uhh, that was a direct quote from the article.
No it’s not
Did you even read the article. You do know what a "direct quote" means, don't you.
it's the first two paragraphs
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