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re: Is Kentucky still the Alabama of basketball?
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:08 am to colbycovington
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:08 am to colbycovington
Yeah they are just having a down year??
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:09 am to Lynxrufus2012
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and the 1946 NIT which at that time was as big if not a bigger tournament than the NCAA.
a lot of older guys have told me the NIT was bigger than the ncaa tournament back in the day
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:09 am to BluegrassBelle
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Best of seven in NBA =/= NCAA Tournament. Again, another apples and oranges comparison.
If winning the NC in the NCAA Tournament was easy, Kentucky would have more than 8 NCs. Using that as your sole measure for a successful program in CBB is a poor one. Kentucky is successful in basketball because of far more than just being #2 in NCs. Those stats have been laid out for you here but you still ignore them.
You aren't making that argument to me, because I'm not necessarily on the other side of it completely. The playoff in college football still starts will the regular season and game one of the schedules. Power 5 teams basically get one mulligan, provided it's not to a team that runs the table. And then they have to be perfect to make it to the next set of playoffs, starting with conference championship games.
I have zero aversion to measuring greatness in terms of wins and even tournament or playoff appearances. But regardless of the formate, everyone will always want to know did you get the hardware? At ALABAMA, it's the same standard the coaches or players hold themselves to.
Calipari wanted to make the 5* freshmen work all the way to the promised land, and other than with AD it really hasn't worked. As a program, I now see Kentucky running out of steam long before the final 4 teams are figured out. I think even more than the basketball formate, that's the issue.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:29 am to NocaHomas Teepee
I remember when Kentucky use to play basketball? 
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:34 am to 1badboy
By that logic, has LSU ever played basketball?
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:39 am to bamameister
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But regardless of the formate, everyone will always want to know did you get the hardware? At ALABAMA, it's the same standard the coaches or players hold themselves to.
Cool.
Kentucky is #2 in the country (to UCLA) in Men's BB Championships.
Alabama is #2 in the country (to Yale) in Football.
So it appears Kentucky is still the Alabama of basketball.
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 9:40 am
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:53 am to colbycovington
Kentucky has been the gold standard for SEC basketball longer than Bama has been for football. Let's all remember that the father of Bama football quit coaching at Kentucky because he couldn't get out of Adolph Rupp's shadow. Kentucky also plays all the good teams in the SEC every year, so they can't duck anyone with creative scheduling because the SEC HQ is not in Louisville.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:58 am to bigDgator
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Kentucky has been the gold standard for SEC basketball longer than Bama has been for football. Let's all remember that the father of Bama football quit coaching at Kentucky because he couldn't get out of Adolph Rupp's shadow. Kentucky also plays all the good teams in the SEC every year, so they can't duck anyone with creative scheduling because the SEC HQ is not in Louisville.
Alabama football was kicking azz in the Rose Bowl during the 1920s. Just how far back does Kentucky basketball dominance go?
Posted on 2/10/21 at 10:07 am to BannedSneakerhead
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SEC CHAMPS
1. Kentucky - 49
2. LSU - 11
lol Kentucky dominates the sport
I always forget we are #2 in that metric
Posted on 2/10/21 at 10:13 am to BluegrassBelle
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Cool.
Kentucky is #2 in the country (to UCLA) in Men's BB Championships.
Alabama is #2 in the country (to Yale) in Football.
So it appears Kentucky is still the Alabama of basketbal
You were doing pretty good but this actually hurts your arguments more than helps you, as most of Yale's titles were in the 1800s, when football was more like rugby than the game we know, and some were games played against high schools and non collegiate clubs.
A much more relevant and valid argument would be that until 1998 football titles were decided by polls whereas basketball has had a tournament since 1939 (according to google)
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 10:14 am
Posted on 2/10/21 at 10:18 am to bamameister
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Just how far back does Kentucky basketball dominance go?
Well, they won a Helms Title in 1933. Rupp's '34 team was retroactively recognized by the Premo-Poretta poll.
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 10:19 am
Posted on 2/10/21 at 10:19 am to bigDgator
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Let's all remember that the father of Bama football quit coaching at Kentucky because he couldn't get out of Adolph Rupp's shadow.
wrong answer. Wallace Wade won titles in 1925, 1926, and 1930. Bryant's head coach at Alabama, Frank Thomas, won a national title in 1934.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 10:41 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:You might want to check your stats on that again
4. Louisville (1)
Posted on 2/10/21 at 10:41 am to BluegrassBelle
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retroactively recognized by the Premo-Poretta poll.
This makes Mizzou the oldest bb power in the current SEC with their 1920 and 1921 back to back titles.
Bama is the only other one to be awarded a retroactive #1 rank for their 1929-30 20-0 team ( opened vs some YMCA and Lumber Yard teams before conference play
) They did beat the Premo-Poretta #2 Duke in the Southern Conference tournament to cap off their undefeated season. Bb is likely the hardest to judge between eras. Since the expansion to 64 teams, there really isn't a more difficult title to win that takes luck to go along with talent. BB has so much parity and its own streaky individual/team play that causes drastic half to half and game to game differences.
The single game elimination is extraordinarily difficult to overcome for a 6 game stretch to win a championship. Kudos to those programs who do it well. And, UK (the clear Bama of SEC BB) does it as well as anyone in the country and have done so since the first SEC tournaments began in 1933.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 10:42 am to droliver
Lol Kansas is clearly behind Kentucky
Posted on 2/10/21 at 11:03 am to BannedSneakerhead
quote:Yeah, no. You frickers don't get to keep doing this bullshite.
1. Kentucky - 49
2. LSU - 11
lol Kentucky dominates the sport
#2 in Conference Championships is
ARKANSAS with 24 Conference Titles.
frickin asshat rantards, Man. WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR THIRTY FOOKIN YEARS for God's sake.
LINK /
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 11:08 am
Posted on 2/10/21 at 11:06 am to Old Money
quote:Because you really aren't.
I always forget we are #2 in that metric
Kentucky/Arkansas/Florida and the SEC's Basketball Big 3.
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