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re: Is Georgia's 2021 Defense That Much Better Than 2020?
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:39 am to The Architect
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:39 am to The Architect
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It wasn't garbage time to your fans, coaches, and players. I suggest you re-watch the last drive.
Garbage time started as soon as Stoops decided to run the clock out in the fourth. As soon as one team stops trying to win, garbage time starts.
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:45 am to thatthang
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Do you think UGA will choke it all away again or is this finally the year?
I think the dawgs will win it all. I'd be shocked if they didn't. And, they don't need JT Daniels back to do it.
Back to the other issue. I'm glad the fans were still rowdy, I'm glad your players played with pride on the last drive... I KNOW damn well they didn't want us to score. That was a great learning experience for our team. The Cats played their slow methodical style and got some points. Garbage time or not... I don't really care at this point. We played with a little tempo on the first drive, (and have typically on our first drives) just because I think our first drives have been scripted.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:54 am to The Architect
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You mean we took what the defense gave us instead of trying desperation deep throws into double or triple coverage?
Yes. You took a slow methodical March to a 17 point defeat, instead of trying anything that could’ve made it a game. Despite have 11 minutes left, You gave up on winning.
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Then your coach should have changed his mindset and tried to get us off the field. We also took at least one deep shot from about mid field. Your dudes blitzed and got a sack on one down.
Why would we do that? If you want to run the clock out on your team, that’s cool. Winning is what most teams try to do in that situation, you took a different approach.
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Nobody in that place wanted us to score.
Including your coach, well atleast he didn’t want to score 3 times during the final quarter (lots of teams do that you know) he was good with just scoring once..down 23. It was bizarre.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:27 am to Notrub14
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I haven't run the stats to be sure, but you're leaving out that all of these teams have played non P5 or even FCS teams this year and have inflated their stats against them. And they did not because of Covid last year. So the numbers aren't directly comparable. I bet these offenses are all about the same as last year.
Honestly, I really shouldn't have even used per game stats, but it was late and I was being lazy. Those stats are TV stats, they look good on a screen but are not very useful. And points per game are particularly not useful because there is simply a floor to that stat...teams are generally going to score a certain amount at least, between 7-10 probably, on average, against even an amazing team. That is just football.
Using per attempt stats are far more descriptive, particularly when used to compare a team performance versus all other competition.
Against these teams, last year UGA held them to 82% of their pass yards per attempt average and 55% of their rush yards per attempt average (against competition other than Georgia).
This year, those numbers have dropped to 75% and 45% respectively
Interestingly, that game that is hurting UGA the most out of those is SC. the numbers drop to 68% and 35% without that game. Basically, the defense has become more efficient as the season has progressed.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:44 am to td01241
quote:yes, Mr. football expert extraordinaire...
Yes. Next question
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Thanks, I'll hang up and listen.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:45 am to Notrub14
Yeah and we had very little disruption in the backfield last year. Now do our stats on sacks and hurries from 2020 vs 2021
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:46 am to Notrub14
Yes. Much better. Kentucky is a LOT better than last year.
Stats are just part of the equation, not everything.
Stats are just part of the equation, not everything.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:47 am to JJJimmyJimJames
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Thanks, I'll hang up and go away.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:50 am to Notrub14
Now go and look at the yardage.. last year was bend don’t break. This year is beak the other team.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 10:51 am
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:01 am to The Architect
I'm glad that you are proud of the fact that your c.unt bitch of a coach played to cover rather than to win.
JFC, UK fans have supplanted UF fans as the Moral Victory Champions of the fricking World.
JFC, UK fans have supplanted UF fans as the Moral Victory Champions of the fricking World.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:15 am to Cheer
Kentucky is clinging to that TD like their coaches career depends upon it.
Facts:
The dawg fans were loud and doing everything possible to stop kentucky
UGA had starters in doing everything possible on the playcalls to stop kentucky
Facts that kentucky fans ignore:
UGA was not calling half of the defensive playbook. The goal was to not give up a quick score and to bleed the clock. Kentucky played into that goal willingly. Why would UGA playcall different?
If UGA got the ball back (kudos to kentucky for not doing so), we would have tried to methodically move down the field and taking as much clock down with us. In the last 5 minutes, we would have rotated linemen and receivers to get work with some of the number 1 offense (4 outof 5 of our running backa are technically part of our #1 offense).
Again kudos to kentucky for scoring.
UGA did not want to give up those points. But there were things on the drive that were more important. Dan lanning checked with kirby during the drive and kirby said to keep the defensive gameplan the same.
Facts:
The dawg fans were loud and doing everything possible to stop kentucky
UGA had starters in doing everything possible on the playcalls to stop kentucky
Facts that kentucky fans ignore:
UGA was not calling half of the defensive playbook. The goal was to not give up a quick score and to bleed the clock. Kentucky played into that goal willingly. Why would UGA playcall different?
If UGA got the ball back (kudos to kentucky for not doing so), we would have tried to methodically move down the field and taking as much clock down with us. In the last 5 minutes, we would have rotated linemen and receivers to get work with some of the number 1 offense (4 outof 5 of our running backa are technically part of our #1 offense).
Again kudos to kentucky for scoring.
UGA did not want to give up those points. But there were things on the drive that were more important. Dan lanning checked with kirby during the drive and kirby said to keep the defensive gameplan the same.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:35 am to Notrub14
I’d have to say yes. They look more dominant and athletic this year
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:38 am to Notrub14
I don't really care...I just want'em to win.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:29 pm to meansonny
I respect Stoops, now, less than I respect Mullen. You play the game go win.
If you are conceding the fricking victory, which he was, then you don't extend the game with timeouts.
I have zero problem with him keeping in starters or running his entire playbook. But the timeout was bush-league and served no purpose but his need to give the appearance of measuring up.
Again, if you are playing to win, use the fricking TO's and call plays to manage the clock. Not to extend garbage time and risk the health of players on both teams.
That's why some leagues have a running clock in blowouts.
Stoops is a bitch.
If you are conceding the fricking victory, which he was, then you don't extend the game with timeouts.
I have zero problem with him keeping in starters or running his entire playbook. But the timeout was bush-league and served no purpose but his need to give the appearance of measuring up.
Again, if you are playing to win, use the fricking TO's and call plays to manage the clock. Not to extend garbage time and risk the health of players on both teams.
That's why some leagues have a running clock in blowouts.
Stoops is a bitch.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:49 pm to Cheer
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I respect Stoops, now, less than I respect Mullen. You play the game go win.
If you are conceding the fricking victory, which he was, then you don't extend the game with timeouts.
I have zero problem with him keeping in starters or running his entire playbook. But the timeout was bush-league and served no purpose but his need to give the appearance of measuring up.
Again, if you are playing to win, use the fricking TO's and call plays to manage the clock. Not to extend garbage time and risk the health of players on both teams.
That's why some leagues have a running clock in blowouts.
Stoops is a bitch
I completely disagree.
He was driving 74 yards in 21 plays and over 11 minutes. Of course he is calling the timeout (as he should).
I agree that he crapped on his team with 11 minutes to go. But he was looking big picture. Even if he could score 3 times in the quarter, he wasnt keeping us out of the endzone. He had no shot to win, so he called an audible and manufactured a moral victory.
And he earned that moral victory.
My only contention is kentucky fans taking pride in 3.4 yards per play on the drive like army, navy, and coach paul johnson is a level of achievement that they aspire towards. The moral victory is not an indication of a good offense. Just a drive against a defense that was willing to not take chances and bleed the clock on the way down the field.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 4:46 pm to Notrub14
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Is Georgia's 2021 Defense That Much Better Than 2020?
Georgia defense is good but let’s see them play some good offenses before anointing them the 1985 Bears.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 4:57 pm to The Architect
That UK game was over a long time before the final whistle. It was a silly cheap move to call that timeout with 3 seconds left. UK gonna regret it big time next year. Georgia is going to remember. BTW did UK have an injury to a WR on that senseless display of spite? Heard they did. If so serves them right. I was there but didn’t see an injury. My seat was in the opposite end of the field and I could have missed it. Great block on that extra point. Kinda took the sad little smirk of the Ky fans face didn’t it
Posted on 10/18/21 at 5:00 pm to The Architect
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wasn't garbage time to your fans, coaches, and players. I suggest you re-watch the last drive.
Garbage is a moment in a game in which one side has an insurmountable lead. Fans cheering, players playing, and coaches coaching doesn’t change it.
Stoops goal was to ensure his team didn’t give up 2 more tds because he knew his team had already lost.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 10/18/21 at 5:12 pm to ATW
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Georgia defense is good but let’s see them play some good offenses before anointing them the 1985 Bears.
This is the reason a game with Bama, OU, or OSU (Just to name some good offenses) would probably be a pick’em type game.
There are enough data points to think that UGA would most likely hold true to form, hold up to a good offense at the levels they have. That still means a good offense puts up ~450 yards and ~35 points. And UGA has played better 5 better defenses than either OU or OSU and is still projected string the same points, going by the same statistical reference. Conversely, both those teams have played offenses better than Georgia…it all boils down to a matchup between these teams being a toss up.
Bama, I think, is best set up to handle UGA with the balance of offense and defense that they have shown mostly. They’ve had a rough hiccup, which is why I would call that a pick’em game as well.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 6:15 pm to BloodRunsRed&Black
This is trying to hard to make it a pick em game. Georgia would be favored by 4+ against any of the teams that you cited regardless of the location.
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