re: Is Ewers the biggest example so far of NIL failure?

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No, it literally doesn't. It means people signed deals with him outside the collective.

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...Which would be for him to advertise their product / brand. That's not pay for play.

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...Which would be for him to advertise their product / brand. That's not pay for play.

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No, it does not mean that. You have no way of knowing the true intent of the deal. All deals are done under that guise.

I understand some legitimate deals exist, Bryce Young had a ton of them before collectives really started. However, just because a deal is done outside the collective does not indicate it's not pay to play.

If you donate to a collective, I don't think that counts as a business expense. However, if you do the NIL privately in contracts with your business, then things change.

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No, it does not mean that. You have no way of knowing the true intent of the deal. All deals are done under that guise.

I understand some legitimate deals exist, Bryce Young had a ton of them before collectives really started. However, just because a deal is done outside the collective does not indicate it's not pay to play.

If you donate to a collective, I don't think that counts as a business expense. However, if you do the NIL privately in contracts with your business, then things change.

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A company is not just paying an athlete to exist. They are exchanging money for a service (event, social media post, ect). They have to offer a service in return for the money or you are asking to be audited.

In summary, it's not pay for play.

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Once again, you do not know the intent of the individual deals.

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Yet you’re acting like you do.

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It's the same with collectives, they are technically paying for services.

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Correct. Both are paying for services like events and social media posts. That’s not pay for play.

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Texas fans claimed that because he wasn't getting money from the collective, it was proof he wasn't getting any pay to play NIL.

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No actually this is the initial response you replied to…

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His NIL was earned through his actual Name, Image, and Likeness

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Which if it wasn’t through a collective, it means he was doing brand deals with businesses. Hence it was from his Name Image and Likeness. Businesses don’t just fork over giant chunks of change without a service being done. That’s how you trigger an audit.

This isn’t a hard topic to get. If you are doing a service outside of playing football, it’s not pay for play.

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Yeah and whores just want $500 for gas money.

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I’m not sure what that has to do with a business paying an athlete for promotion.

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Which if it wasn’t through a collective, it means he was doing brand deals with businesses. Hence it was from his Name Image and Likeness. Businesses don’t just fork over giant chunks of change without a service being done. That’s how you trigger an audit.

This isn’t a hard topic to get. If you are doing a service outside of playing football, it’s not pay for play.

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It doesn't mean that, but I'm not going to sit here and argue with you anymore. You are dense as frick.

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I’m not sure what that has to do with a business paying an athlete for promotion.

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Because you are dense as frick.

Not to mention which, he’s pretty clearly injury prone. At least this way he was able to make good money putting his physical well being on the line for the school. Lot of guys over the years would have loved that opportunity. It’s the best argument for letting players get paid. The sport is too violent to deny players the right to make money to take the risk.

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It’s exactly what it means.

Also when you start using insults instead of evidence, that typically means you lost the argument or you’re too emotionally invested. Next time try and separate your feelings and your claims. It might work out better for you.

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I've already explained it to you. I'm not going to keep repeating myself because you are too stupid to grasp basic concepts. If you want to continue the argument, just go back and reread my posts from the last page.

You do not know their intent. PERIOD.

I guess next you're going to tell me Obama's daughter really did provide consulting worth millions of dollars.

And btw, an ad hominem is when they insult rather than provide an argument. Your inability to comprehend a basic fact is not my fault.

Was just talking with a buddy about his landing spot. I can not think of a more unstable QB room with the weapons the Fins have. Tua may medically retire this year for all we know and the its Zach Wilson vs Quinn. Not idea if I am a Fins fan but great for Quinn to get his shot. If I am him I would have preferred to learn under a more stable QB room but at least he didnt end up in Cleveland like Sanders.

No. That original A&M class is NIL's biggest failure to date.