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re: Is Chizik a "flash in the pan"?

Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
8183 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:13 pm to
Who cares. Our loss last Sat counts the same in the record books as your loss to us last year. When they start giving out extra wins or losses based on margin of victory I will begin to care. I don't know what to call a moral victory on top of a win but if that is what you want then by all means proceed.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:14 pm to
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link?

Didn't you start the season ranked in the top 20?


No link. Trust me on this one. I called it the bet of the century. BetUS had the AU win total set at 4.5 games -180 when it opened. Fact.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:14 pm to
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Why should saban be considered a good coach. After all, he only wins because he has great players(see 2007).


Exactly. Players. He doesn't win because he has a great player. The way Chizik has been recruiting over the past two years you would think that some great players would have stepped up on the offensive and defensive side of the ball by now.



Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18316 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:15 pm to
Let's compare to Miles after his NC.... In 2008 LSU gave up 51 to UF, 52 to UGA, 27 to Bama, 31 to Ole Miss, 31 to Arkie and went 8-5... Does that help answer your question...

How about almost lost to Troy (comeback in 4th), but you did beat the worse Auburn team (tony Franklin) 26-21 by scoring later...

Does that help answer your questions and no I did not read this entire thread.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:16 pm to
Actually, it was 5.5 -180 when it opened and later moved to 6....
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:18 pm to
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Exactly. Players. He doesn't win because he has a great player. The way Chizik has been recruiting over the past two years you would think that some great players would have stepped up on the offensive and defensive side of the ball by now.


You really are clueless aren't you? 2010, Chiz's first recruiting class are redshirt freshmen and true sophmores this year. Mike Dyer ring a bell?

And you do not think they are contributing???????


Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54696 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:18 pm to
Wait, so vegas puts out the top 20 now?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:19 pm to
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Let's compare to Miles after his NC.... In 2008 LSU gave up 51 to UF, 52 to UGA, 27 to Bama, 31 to Ole Miss, 31 to Arkie and went 8-5... Does that help answer your question...


Let's also remember that LSU was starting a freshman at QB after their star QB had been kicked off the team earlier in the summer. And let's also remember that they had two co-defensive coordinators. There was no cohesion at all on that staff in '08 and, to a lesser extent, in '09.

Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66678 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:20 pm to
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Let's also remember that LSU was starting a freshman at QB after their star QB had been kicked off the team earlier in the summer. And let's also remember that they had two co-defensive coordinators. There was no cohesion at all on that staff in '08 and, to a lesser extent, in '09.


Why did Les not have another QB ready? Does he not know how to develop players?

See how that works.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54696 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:20 pm to
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Let's also remember that LSU was starting a freshman at QB after their star QB had been kicked off the team earlier in the summer. And let's also remember that they had two co-defensive coordinators. There was no cohesion at all on that staff in '08 and, to a lesser extent, in '09.

SO you are willing to look at extenuating circumstances with other coaches, but with Chizik the breadth of your view is Cam v. No Cam? Ahh...to have the thought processes of a 21 year old again.
Posted by brodieneedsanol
Member since Jun 2011
373 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:20 pm to
Chiz got a good one in Kris Frost, but y'alls linebacker recruiting has been absolutely shite-tier.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17733 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:20 pm to
chiz won with tubbies players+cam
Posted by keene
georgia
Member since Aug 2011
42 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:21 pm to
I am a life long gator, my wife bama. I think chizik has done a pretty good job at auburrrrnnnn.At least his first year he took his lumps and didn't moan & groan like kiffin did at U.T. However, I think Tebow was the force behind the genius of d.mullin like newton was the force behind the blazing offense of g.malzhun at auburrrnnn.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:21 pm to
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You really are clueless aren't you? 2010, Chiz's first recruiting class are redshirt freshmen and true sophmores this year. Mike Dyer ring a bell?

And you do not think they are contributing???????



And, with the exception of Dyer, they're all playing shitty. Coaching, my friend, coaching. We had true freshmen and true sophomores all over the defense in 2010 and we still managed a top five unit.

Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:21 pm to
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More credit to his assistants than him. The fact that you are even struggling this badly in year three is a testament to your head coach.


Right on time.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54696 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:21 pm to
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Chiz got a good one in Kris Frost, but y'alls linebacker recruiting has been absolutely shite-tier.
No one can argue that. We look good at every other spot looking into the future (assuming Frazier develops as a QB), but LB will be average at best for a couple of years.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:22 pm to
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Chiz got a good one in Kris Frost, but y'alls linebacker recruiting has been absolutely shite-tier.


Agree. But this year, we will sign all three of our top linebacker prospects including Kwon. So, it is about to be fixed. Frost will play a lot next year I expect as well.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54696 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:23 pm to
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Coaching, my friend, coaching. We had true freshmen and true sophomores all over the defense in 2010 and we still managed a top five unit.
So you lost 30 players and all but 5 starters too. I didn't realize it was the same exact situation until now.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:23 pm to
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And, with the exception of Dyer, they're all playing shitty. Coaching, my friend, coaching. We had true freshmen and true sophomores all over the defense in 2010 and we still managed a top five unit.


You should have quit when you were way way behind and only looked like a regular retard. Now you have gone full retard and are just a waste of time and space.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:24 pm to
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They dismantled your defense last year, and look where yall are at now. Dumb thread.

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