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Iron Bowl History - how often do "upsets" happen?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:45 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:45 am
We always hear "throw out the record books" with rivalries but the Iron Bowl hasn't had a long history of shocking upsets, though it has happened on occasion.
Since 1979 (upsets teams more than 5 spots apart)
1979 - #1 Alabama 25-18 vs #14 Auburn (N)
1980 - #9 Alabama 34-18 vs Auburn (N)
1981 - #4 Alabama 28-17 vs Auburn (N)
1982 - Auburn 23-22 vs Alabama (N)
1983 - #3 Auburn 23-20 vs #19 Alabama (N)
1984 - Alabama 17-15 vs #11 Auburn (N)
1985 - Alabama 25-23 vs #7 Auburn (N)
1986 - #14 Auburn 21-17 vs #7 Alabama (N)
1987 - #7 Auburn 10-0 vs #18 Alabama (N)
1988 - #7 Auburn 15-10 vs #17 Alabama (N)
1989 - #11 Auburn 30-20 vs #2 Alabama (@AU)
1990 - Alabama 16-7 vs #20 Auburn (LF @UA)
1991 - #8 Alabama 13-6 vs Auburn (LF @AU)
1992 - #2 Alabama 17-0 vs Auburn (LF @UA)
1993 - #6 Auburn 22-14 vs #11 Alabama (@AU)
1994 - #4 Alabama 21-14 vs #6 Auburn (LF @UA)
1995 - #21 Auburn 31-27 vs #17 Alabama (@AU)
1996 - #15 Alabama 24-23 vs Auburn (LF @UA)
1997 - #13 Auburn 18-17 vs Alabama (@AU)
1998 - Alabama 31-17 vs Auburn (LF @UA)
1999 - #8 Alabama 28-17 vs Auburn (@AU)
2000 - #18 Auburn 9-0 vs Alabama (@UA)
2001 - Alabama 31-7 vs #17 Auburn (@AU)
2002 - Auburn 17-7 vs #9 Alabama (@UA)
2003 - Auburn 28-23 vs Alabama (@AU)
2004 - #2 Auburn 21-13 vs Alabama (@UA)
2005 - #11 Auburn 28-18 vs #8 Alabama (@AU)
2006 - #15 Auburn 22-15 vs Alabama (@UA)
2007 - #25 Auburn 17-10 vs Alabama (@AU)
2008 - #1 Alabama 36-0 vs Auburn (@UA)
2009 - #2 Alabama 26-21 vs Auburn (@AU)
2010 - #2 Auburn 28-27 vs #9 Alabama (@UA)
2011 - #2 Alabama 42-14 vs Auburn (@AU)
2012 - #2 Alabama 49-0 vs Auburn (@UA)
2013 - #4 Auburn 34-28 vs #1 Alabama (@AU)
Over the last 35 years there have been
- 7 games in which a team ranked 5 spots lower won
- 2 games in which the lower ranked team won on the road (interestingly enough in back to back years in 2001 and 2002)
- 3 games in which neither team was ranked (1982, 1998, 2003)
Over last 10 years (since 2004)
- 2 upsets, both by Auburn and both in Auburn (though 2005 wasn't much of an upset)
- 8/10 meetings one of the two teams has been in the Top 10 (9/11 including this year)
In the last 23 years there have only been 2 games in which a team ranked 5 spots lower than the other won the game and they were in back to back years (2001 and 2002).
Since 1979 (upsets teams more than 5 spots apart)
1979 - #1 Alabama 25-18 vs #14 Auburn (N)
1980 - #9 Alabama 34-18 vs Auburn (N)
1981 - #4 Alabama 28-17 vs Auburn (N)
1982 - Auburn 23-22 vs Alabama (N)
1983 - #3 Auburn 23-20 vs #19 Alabama (N)
1984 - Alabama 17-15 vs #11 Auburn (N)
1985 - Alabama 25-23 vs #7 Auburn (N)
1986 - #14 Auburn 21-17 vs #7 Alabama (N)
1987 - #7 Auburn 10-0 vs #18 Alabama (N)
1988 - #7 Auburn 15-10 vs #17 Alabama (N)
1989 - #11 Auburn 30-20 vs #2 Alabama (@AU)
1990 - Alabama 16-7 vs #20 Auburn (LF @UA)
1991 - #8 Alabama 13-6 vs Auburn (LF @AU)
1992 - #2 Alabama 17-0 vs Auburn (LF @UA)
1993 - #6 Auburn 22-14 vs #11 Alabama (@AU)
1994 - #4 Alabama 21-14 vs #6 Auburn (LF @UA)
1995 - #21 Auburn 31-27 vs #17 Alabama (@AU)
1996 - #15 Alabama 24-23 vs Auburn (LF @UA)
1997 - #13 Auburn 18-17 vs Alabama (@AU)
1998 - Alabama 31-17 vs Auburn (LF @UA)
1999 - #8 Alabama 28-17 vs Auburn (@AU)
2000 - #18 Auburn 9-0 vs Alabama (@UA)
2001 - Alabama 31-7 vs #17 Auburn (@AU)
2002 - Auburn 17-7 vs #9 Alabama (@UA)
2003 - Auburn 28-23 vs Alabama (@AU)
2004 - #2 Auburn 21-13 vs Alabama (@UA)
2005 - #11 Auburn 28-18 vs #8 Alabama (@AU)
2006 - #15 Auburn 22-15 vs Alabama (@UA)
2007 - #25 Auburn 17-10 vs Alabama (@AU)
2008 - #1 Alabama 36-0 vs Auburn (@UA)
2009 - #2 Alabama 26-21 vs Auburn (@AU)
2010 - #2 Auburn 28-27 vs #9 Alabama (@UA)
2011 - #2 Alabama 42-14 vs Auburn (@AU)
2012 - #2 Alabama 49-0 vs Auburn (@UA)
2013 - #4 Auburn 34-28 vs #1 Alabama (@AU)
Over the last 35 years there have been
- 7 games in which a team ranked 5 spots lower won
- 2 games in which the lower ranked team won on the road (interestingly enough in back to back years in 2001 and 2002)
- 3 games in which neither team was ranked (1982, 1998, 2003)
Over last 10 years (since 2004)
- 2 upsets, both by Auburn and both in Auburn (though 2005 wasn't much of an upset)
- 8/10 meetings one of the two teams has been in the Top 10 (9/11 including this year)
In the last 23 years there have only been 2 games in which a team ranked 5 spots lower than the other won the game and they were in back to back years (2001 and 2002).
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 11:54 am
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:48 am to SummerOfGeorge
1984, 1990, 2001, and 2002 have been the only real upsets in the past 35 years.
Don't care about what the betting line is or the rankings.
The 4 I mentioned are the only ones in 35 years when the team that was definitely better lost.
Don't care about what the betting line is or the rankings.
The 4 I mentioned are the only ones in 35 years when the team that was definitely better lost.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 8:49 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:49 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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1984, 1990, 2001, and 2002 have been the only real upsets in the past 35 years. Don't care about what the betting line is. The 4 I mentioned are the only ones in 35 years when the team that was definitely better lost.
Agree, though while I think last year in hindsight the teams were pretty close it was definitely an upset for Auburn to win at the time in the eyes of everyone. They were a pretty heavy underdog (both in Vegas and amongst both fanbases).
2001 and 2002 were incredibly wacky.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:53 am to SummerOfGeorge
I know, that is why I threw out the disclaimer about rankings and the betting line.
1984 - AU was much better, but missed about 50 field goals. Dye called it the worst coaching performance of his career.
1990 - Stallings pulled off a great coaching job and AU played not to lose. It really ignited the Stallings era. Bama was not a good team in 1990, AU was.
2001 - AU was a bit better, but got blown the frick out by a motivated bama. Most shocking IB in 35 years IMO.
2002 - Exactly opposite of 2001, bama was a lot better, but didn't give a shite at that point.
1984 - AU was much better, but missed about 50 field goals. Dye called it the worst coaching performance of his career.
1990 - Stallings pulled off a great coaching job and AU played not to lose. It really ignited the Stallings era. Bama was not a good team in 1990, AU was.
2001 - AU was a bit better, but got blown the frick out by a motivated bama. Most shocking IB in 35 years IMO.
2002 - Exactly opposite of 2001, bama was a lot better, but didn't give a shite at that point.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:56 am to SummerOfGeorge
BTW, if AU was to win this year I would not view it as, as much of an upset as the 4 mentioned. AU is a good team this year. In the 4 I mentioned a team that was not really very good beat a good team. This year both teams are pretty good.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 8:57 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:57 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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BTW, if AU was to win this year I would not view it as, as much of an upset as the 4 mentioned. AU is a good team this year. In the 4 I mentioned a team that was not really very good beat a good team. This year both teams are pretty good.
Agree - it will still be a big deal based on how Auburn has played lately and that the game is in Tuscaloosa, but it would not be Rory Turner/Andrew Zow/Tre Smith level.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:58 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Neutral? Come on now.... All of those were home games for bama
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:59 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Bama was favored in 2010... Do not remember the last time Auburn was favored in Ttown. Auburn is 7-2 in Ttown.
If 10 times out of 35 the lower ranked team wins, that is an upset.
NOTE: Past experiences are not a good measure of future results.
If 10 times out of 35 the lower ranked team wins, that is an upset.
NOTE: Past experiences are not a good measure of future results.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 9:00 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:59 am to Bow to Auburn
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Neutral? Come on now.... All of those were home games for bama
Really wasn't planning for this to be a Legion Field Iron Bowl discussion but technically both sides got 50-50 shares and the record books call them neutral.
Do with that what you will.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:59 am to SummerOfGeorge
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2013 - #4 Auburn 34-28 vs #1 Alabama (@AU)
A top 5 team beating a top 5 team at home is not an upset.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:59 am to Bow to Auburn
2001 was in JH.
That one is the most shocking of the last 35 years. AU was totally blown out at home.
That one is the most shocking of the last 35 years. AU was totally blown out at home.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:02 am to SummerOfGeorge
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1990 - Alabama 16-7 vs #20 Auburn (N)
1991 - #8 Alabama 13-6 vs Auburn (N)
1992 - #2 Alabama 17-0 vs Auburn (N)
Those games were not 50-50... They were Bama home games in 1990 and 1992 (Auburn home game in 1991, Pat Dye threw Alabama a bone, his words)
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:02 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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2001 was in JH. That one is the most shocking of the last 35 years. AU was totally blown out at home.
Yep. We were 3-5 and about to lose at home to a 2 or 3 win Mississippi State team to drop to 3-6 and somehow won, then the Iron Bowl happened to get us to 5-5 and then we beat Southern Miss in the 9-11 reschedule.
Totally insane. That was a good Auburn team too, but one of those typical Tubs teams that didn't live up to their potential.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:04 am to allin2010
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Those games were not 50-50... They were Bama home games in 1990 and 1992 (Auburn home game in 1991, Pat Dye threw Alabama a bone, his words)
Yea the 1991 Iron Bowl was my first (6 years old). Sat in my uncles Auburn season ticket holder seats.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:06 am to allin2010
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Bama was favored in 2010... Do not remember the last time Auburn was favored in Ttown. Auburn is 7-2 in Ttown. If 10 times out of 35 the lower ranked team wins, that is an upset. NOTE: Past experiences are not a good measure of future results.
Yea, this wasn't meant as some sort of prediction thread. It was just a look back.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:09 am to SummerOfGeorge
Upsets may not occur often in the series, but more times than not the game is really close and competitive. Only times it's not competitive is when we blow them out. 
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:22 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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2001 was in JH.
That one is the most shocking of the last 35 years. AU was totally blown out at home.
It was shocking....the only thing worth a shite that Franchione ever accomplished at Bama.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:23 am to 14&Counting
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It was shocking....the only thing worth a shite that Franchione ever accomplished at Bama.
He then cancelled it out by doing no preparation for the Mississippi State or Auburn games the next year as he was preparing his exit strategy.
HOLD THE ROPE
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:24 am to The Spleen
Meh, 2004 and 2005 were not really very competitive.
The 2005 game was over by the end of the first quarter. A TD in the final seconds was the only thing that made it look like it wasn't a blowout, but bama wasn't even close to competitive in that one.
In 2004, we scored 21 points on three straight possessions to start the second half to go up big, then bama scored a TD and got a two point conversion with a few seconds left on a hail mary throw. That one was over by mid third quarter.
The 2005 game was over by the end of the first quarter. A TD in the final seconds was the only thing that made it look like it wasn't a blowout, but bama wasn't even close to competitive in that one.
In 2004, we scored 21 points on three straight possessions to start the second half to go up big, then bama scored a TD and got a two point conversion with a few seconds left on a hail mary throw. That one was over by mid third quarter.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:25 am to allin2010
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Bama was favored in 2010
Winning over a favored team isn't considered an upset. Winning over a heavily favored team is.
Is there a way to look up historical point spreads?
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