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re: Interesting correlations between Ole Miss and Texas Tech

Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:52 am to
Posted by AgCoug
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:52 am to
I think you are underplaying the 10% rule. Most students who qualify for the 10% auto enroll choose Texas or A&M if they go to a public school. That affects acceptance rate since they are automatically accepted.

There are always going to be students who want to go to any college because of legacy, tradition, etc.. The difference is that top universities also get the students who want the best education & job placement after college.

Tech still has a long way to go on the latter. I hope they do get to where President Nellis wants them to be. Everyone benefits from another premier public school in the state.
This post was edited on 5/13/15 at 10:53 am
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:58 am to
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Everyone benefits from another premier public school in the state



Absolutely, but I believe geography is always going to be an obstacle for them.
Posted by DrVinnyBoombatz
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:06 am to
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I think you are underplaying the 10% rule. Most students who qualify for the 10% auto enroll choose Texas or A&M if they go to a public school. That affects acceptance rate since they are automatically accepted.

That rule is terrible. In theory it seems like a good rule, but it doesn't account for the fact that all public schools in Texas are not equal academically. I personally think that SAT and ACT scores should factor into that rule as well, or there should be a cap on how many get accepted. Not to mention that at one point, over 80% of UT's freshman class were accepted based on that rule.
Posted by Numberwang
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:18 am to
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There are a lot of factors that go into that, obviously, but Tech is not as easy to get into anymore.


Read that as "tractors" the first time.
Posted by oman
Dallas
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:23 am to
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I think you are underplaying the 10% rule. Most students who qualify for the 10% auto enroll choose Texas or A&M if they go to a public school. That affects acceptance rate since they are automatically accepted.


The 10% drives good students who just missed the cut to other schools.

So Tech, UTSA, everyone in Texas and adjoining states now have a great shot at all the kids who were in the top 15% in great schools with parents who can pay tuition.

Bottom line is that those 10% kids would have likely attended Texas or A&M. But now A&M and Texas are sending really good kids (Top 15% from Allen High school) to places like Tech.

Those top 15% from Allen High school are arguably better students than the top 10% from a "lesser high school" who are auto enrolling in A&M or Texas.

I do think the 10% rule helps A&M in the short run because it "puts them on the same level" as UT Austin, but I think it gives Tech access to really good students that would have otherwise gone to UT or A&M if UT and A&M had more flexibility in admissions.
This post was edited on 5/13/15 at 11:24 am
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:25 am to
Stupid thread
Posted by Numberwang
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:26 am to
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So Tech, UTSA, everyone in Texas and adjoining states now have a great shot at all the kids who were in the top 15% in great schools with parents who can pay tuition.


Hence...

Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:30 am to
Posted by oman
Dallas
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:30 am to
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Stupid thread


Cuz there's math?
This post was edited on 5/13/15 at 11:31 am
Posted by Duffman81
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
37 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:31 am to
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you didn't ask one. you still haven't. Baylor is enjoying far more success right now than they usually do, and as a fan I am simply enjoying it. I went to the Alamo bowl in 2011 and it was a fantastically entertaining game. It was still a scrub bowl. The past two years Baylor has gone to significant bowls, and lost them. none of the bowls you listed for tech are significant bowls. So if you want to compare piss, I think you lose, but that wasn't the argument I was making in my original post. Ole miss, historically, should not be considered comparable to Tech. the OP cherry picked stats that are irrelevant, unindicative, and generally expose him as clownish.


Please define what a scrub bowl is because you just called the cotton bowl insignificant. The cotton bowl, even when not affiliated with the playoff, at worst was a top 10 bowl game. So by your standards one of the best 10 bowls is insignificant. Damn, Baylor really is a national power.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:32 am to
No.

He cherry picked totally irrelevant data.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
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58121 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:33 am to
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you just called the cotton bowl insignificant.


The big 12 champion went to the cotton bowl in 2012
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:33 am to
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I do think the 10% rule helps A&M in the short run


And it allows us to stick to our guns on racially weighted admissions.
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:34 am to
Aggies:

Please do not start threads which will inevitably attract the fleas from your former conference.

Thank in advance.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:34 am to
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The big 12 champion went to the cotton bowl in 2012



Doesn't that prove insignificance?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34680 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:35 am to
quote:


Please do not start threads which will inevitably attract the fleas from your former conference.



Dammit, I had a thread comparing the Baylor Bear to the Ole Miss Bear ready to go.
Posted by Duffman81
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
37 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:36 am to
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Interesting correlations between Ole Miss and Texas Tech by Crimson LegendAggies: Please do not start threads which will inevitably attract the fleas from your former conference. Thank in advance.


guy probably lives in the state of Texas
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83585 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:37 am to
TT is a trash school in Texas while Ole Miss is the height of Mississippi wealth and pride.

Which says something about the respective states considering they're nearly identical in athletics, academics and national prestige.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34680 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:38 am to
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Which says something about the respective states considering they're nearly identical in athletics, academics and national prestige.



Hey now, no one nationally thinks the Red Raiders are racists.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
58121 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:38 am to
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Aggies: Please do not start threads which will inevitably attract the fleas from your former conference. Thank in advance.




Agreed, LSU fans start to many of these as it is


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