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Injury waivers ARE contracts

Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:05 pm
Posted by stitchop
jonesboro
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:05 pm
minicamp injury waiver is a contract in that the team offers participation, the player accepts by signing and participating, and there is consideration—such as the team allowing the player to attend in exchange for the player’s promises and release of specified claims. It may be called a waiver-and-release contract, exculpatory agreement, or participation agreement, but legally, it would be referred to as "the contract " should disputes arise between the parties to the agreement.

The argument that there is no payment is negated by the value of the minicamp to the player
This participation in minicamp can actually be assigned a monetary value.

Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
7420 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:11 pm to
It used to be the moment a player signed an agent then he was considered a professional and no longer eligible to play in college. Since this has changed then someone might wanna get around to fixing this problem before we have way older players arguing to finish their college career.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15703 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:12 pm to
dude how many crashout topics are you going to make?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
54212 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:16 pm to
It is a contract, but it's not the contract.

This shite isnt that hard.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
35829 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:17 pm to
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dude how many crashout topics are you going to make?


his/their insecurity over this is pathetic.
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
15784 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:18 pm to
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someone might wanna get around to fixing this problem before we have way older players arguing to finish their college career.


They did. It’s called 5 for 5.

The issue is they are treating the 2022 class differently than anyone else and courts are ruling it’s an antitrust violation.

Next year’s 4th year guys will have a choice to make at the end of the year.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
26363 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:20 pm to
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The argument that there is no payment is negated by the value of the minicamp to the player


Is this where you guys are? Arguing the opportunity to perform in a tryout is equivalent to money.

How much is it worth? What dollar amount? Then prove it.
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
10430 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:22 pm to
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It is a contract, but it's not the contract. This shite isnt that hard.

I mean it’s hard to the commissioner apparently because he couldn’t specify what it meant. So if he doesn’t know how would you know what they meant?
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
16356 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:24 pm to
No one is treating the 2022 different. The 2022 who left had 4 years on the field. The 2022 still at schools redshirted, so they get 4 years on P4 fields. And if they redshirted and medically redshirted, they only get 3 years on the field.

Now you’re making an argument the 2022 that redshirted and this is their 5th year, but only 4th on the field deserve another year. And a local Louisiana judge can make that happen.
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 10:26 pm
Posted by stitchop
jonesboro
Member since Oct 2020
1002 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:25 pm to
The SEC rule says contract.

It doesn't say the contract.

Posted by stitchop
jonesboro
Member since Oct 2020
1002 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:26 pm to
How many flame out coaches you going to have
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
10430 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:27 pm to
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Is this where you guys are? Arguing the opportunity to perform in a tryout is equivalent to money. How much is it worth? What dollar amount? Then prove it.

They receive other forms of payment as well. Along with lodging, travel, etc. it’s a contract that comes with benefits. You can’t really argue that. It’s small on a per day basis but there are definitely payments.
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 10:29 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
54212 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:28 pm to
I am not on record. I can flat out tell you why your guy aint coming back while Texas guy did.


employment contracts

You're welcome
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
54212 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:29 pm to
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They receive other forms of payment as well. Along with lodging, travel, etc. it’s a contract that comes with benefits. You can’t really argue that. It’s small on a per day basis but there are definitely payments.
You get payments and mileage for jury duty. Professional juror?
Posted by stitchop
jonesboro
Member since Oct 2020
1002 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:31 pm to
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employment contracts


SEC rule does not say "employment contract"
It says contract
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
35829 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:32 pm to
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The SEC rule says contract.

It doesn't say the contract.



What pathetic insecurity by LSU
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
54212 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:33 pm to
Yeah well I am a super hero called Clarifying Man
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
10430 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:34 pm to
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am not on record. I can flat out tell you why your guy aint coming back while Texas guy did. employment contracts

Again you’re making assumptions without any proof. They should probably specify that if that’s what they want. You can’t say what you think but it doesn’t make it correct lol
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
10430 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:35 pm to
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You get payments and mileage for jury duty. Professional juror?

Not the point. Irrelevant. See other post.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
7420 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:37 pm to
No I’m talking about any player that ever played 3 yrs in college. If they have any eligibility left and just want to strap it up one more season how can you stop them at this point? It’s just dumb. If a player actually tries to take it to court a judge is just liable to allow it at the rate we are going.

Do you know how absurd it sounds to make the argument that these players didn’t know how much eligibility they had left. Let’s go through the process.

Season ends. Players ask for a draft grade from some committee from the NFL. Receive grade. Meet with coach and talks to family about what he should do. Enters draft and has a pro day. Goes to the NFL Combine. Meets with GM and owners. You mean to tell me anywhere in that process these players were not told by someone either verbally or written down in paperwork that they didn’t know how much college eligibility they have left? That can’t be seriously believed. All you need today for any crazy thing to happen in college sports today is to file a lawsuit and a huge either rules in favor of a player or overrules another judge allowing something crazy to happen. Someone needs to be in charge other than courts or judges while we still have a game to save because the game is starting to really take on damage with this nonsense.
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