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re: In the opinion of non-bammers & non-barners (Spencer Regions)
Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:28 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:28 pm to RollTide1987
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RollTide1987
yeah that does make more sense now. The kid seems like a douche.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:28 pm to adammwilson
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your an base at least on here is makin it seem like this kid is stupid and he is a character risk.
okay but no one is saying that we didnt want him playing football for Bama. And he is making himself look like that. Lying=bad character. Get it?
Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:29 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Easy now. I don't think it has anything to do with his integrity. Saban made him mad or hurt his feelings or whatever. It turned him off, so be it. It isn't hard for me to believe that Saban rubbed someone the wrong way. It just so happens that he rubbed a life-long Bama fan the wrong way.
I don't think anything shady went down, I'm just angry at how the kid handled it. The kid obviously has no integrity.
For some reason, he felt disrespected. It isn't surprising to me in the least. I've noticed in the past that if a lesser talented player wants to commit to Saban, he likes to tell them to cut off their recruitment. If it was a 5 star lock, there used to be no way Saban would have told him that or at least he hasn't done that in the past. I guess he could be implementing some new rule this year that if a player (no matter what their talent level) wants to commit, that means he isn't going anywhere else. I guess it could be a reaction to the Keenan Allen, Sanders and Juwan James thing.
I really hope he learns from this SR fiasco that you can't bully recruits into not taking their other trips. You just have to take the risk and go ahead and take their commitment and keep showing the love. Sometimes you keep'em, sometimes you lose them. No big deal either way.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:29 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Lying=bad character
so you haven't ever lied. More than likely this kid made a quick decision.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:32 pm to RollTide1987
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No. That's not the gist. Since you're just back from scholars bowl or whatever I'll fill you in
Opinions were asked for and mine was given. Deal with it.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:34 pm to adammwilson
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so you haven't ever lied. More than likely this kid made a quick decision.
Yeah, he made a quick decision after he told everyone that he had already made his final decision.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:38 pm to Funky Tide 8
why can't more Bama fans be like Tuck? 

Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:42 pm to adammwilson
I see what you are saying. The kid more than likely doesnt have that bad of character. Obviously something happened that we dont know about. I just want to know what the frick happened!!

Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:44 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Obviously something happened that we dont know about. I just want to know what the frick happened!!


Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:47 pm to adammwilson
thanks, I guess.
I still think Spencer handled this poorly and showed some immaturity. But Saban is working from a place of fear (fear of losing recruits) and nothing good can ever come from that. You end up causing the very thing you fear, just like what happened in this circumstance. You just have to keep plugging away selling the positives and minimizing the negatives that other staffs are trying to push on them.

I still think Spencer handled this poorly and showed some immaturity. But Saban is working from a place of fear (fear of losing recruits) and nothing good can ever come from that. You end up causing the very thing you fear, just like what happened in this circumstance. You just have to keep plugging away selling the positives and minimizing the negatives that other staffs are trying to push on them.
This post was edited on 2/6/10 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:47 pm to tuck
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tuck
most level headed gump on here... Good assessment of the situation. It wasn't some kind of conspiracy, he didn't get his offer pulled... something happened on UA's side of things that turned him off. As to what that was (and whether he'll still be recruited) no one knows right now except the UA coaches and Region's family.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:49 pm to tuck
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I still think Spencer handled this poorly and showed some immaturity
At 17 most guys aren't fully mature.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:49 pm to lowspark12
I'm fairly level-headed too
Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:49 pm to adammwilson
I wonder how much of this is "our" collective fault. There was a time, yes I know I sound like an old fart, when the recruiting process wasn't followed 24/7 365. 17-18 year old kids are being put under tremdous pressure by adults that have competing allegiances. These kids are expected to make decisions and in the process they attempt to please people....coaches, parents, friends ect. Frankly, I think that this whole early commitement bullshite should be outlawed.
All I know is that when I was 17, all I could think about was pussy.
All I know is that when I was 17, all I could think about was pussy.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:55 pm to AUCatfish
quote:It's a good question and I would say it's all our fault. The fact is that this is a popularity contest on a large scale. The winner is the school that gets the most 17 year old boys who are talented to "like" them. It's very odd when you think about it that way. There's obviously more involved like winning and getting to the league, but at its very core, it is nothing more than that. The fact that its a popularity contest is why emotions run so high IMO.
I wonder how much of this is "our" collective fault
Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:56 pm to tuck
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It's a good question and I would say it's all our fault. The fact is that this is a popularity contest on a large scale. The winner is the school that gets the most 17 year old boys who are talented to "like" them. It's very odd when you think about it that way. There's obviously more involved like winning and getting to the league, but at its very core, it is nothing more than that. The fact that its a popularity contest is why emotions run so high IMO.
+1

Posted on 2/6/10 at 8:59 pm to adammwilson
quote:Absolutely. I think his back was against the wall to pick someone today too. He had had already called the press conference and was on his way to it when this all supposedly went down. Speculation on my part but I think there was also a degree of some face-saving going on. I feel bad for the kid in a way. It's always been his dream to play at Bama and something got in the way that probably should never have come up. It's really kind of sad.
At 17 most guys aren't fully mature.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 9:01 pm to tuck
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I feel bad for the kid in a way
Yeah agreed. His favorite team's fans hate him.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 9:07 pm to tuck
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think his back was against the wall to pick someone today too.
agreed... had the PC not been scheduled, whatever happened might have had time to get worked out... remember he had wanted to push it back earlier this week but was getting some pressure from someone to have it today.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 9:23 pm to lowspark12
No matter what you may think about his decision, no one should be "angry" at a 17-18 year old kid for choosing one school over another.
However, I agree with Saban. If you are committing to Alabama then commit. If you want to take visits, that's fine, but don't commit until you're ready to do it.
Don't ask Alabama to commit one of its 25 places/scholarships to you, if you are not willing to make a commitment to Alabama.
That's simple enough. Nothing wrong with Regions's decision. Nothing is wrong with Saban's policy.
However, I agree with Saban. If you are committing to Alabama then commit. If you want to take visits, that's fine, but don't commit until you're ready to do it.
Don't ask Alabama to commit one of its 25 places/scholarships to you, if you are not willing to make a commitment to Alabama.
That's simple enough. Nothing wrong with Regions's decision. Nothing is wrong with Saban's policy.
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