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Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:08 am to Prof
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So we're all just gonna ignore what blueblood means to make a point. Smahhht folks would choose another term but this is the rant.
BTW, has the OED realized we're talking football instead of futbol?
The OED hasn't looked out the window since July 11th, 1983, so I'm guessing they don't bother making a distinction with regards to outdoor sports.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:09 am to randomways
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The OED hasn't looked out the window since July 11th, 1983, so I'm guessing they don't bother making a distinction with regards to outdoor sports.
Fair enough.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:10 am to BamaNatureBoy
Alabama skews your opinion of blue blood.
Miami’s history is so up and down, they are tough to judge.
But yes. As someone posted. Ohio State 2. Oklahoma 2. Michigan 1. Texas 1. They’re still blue bloods.
Miami’s history is so up and down, they are tough to judge.
But yes. As someone posted. Ohio State 2. Oklahoma 2. Michigan 1. Texas 1. They’re still blue bloods.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:12 am to Drewbie
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Blue bloods are blue bloods because they win a lot. If you don't win for a significant period of time, you are no longer a blue blood.
Correct
Minnesota was the first school to win 3 MNC's but nobody today calls them a blue blood. You get a grace period of about a generation before your status starts to slip but it will slip.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:15 am to Cheese Grits
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Correct
Minnesota was the first school to win 3 MNC's but nobody today calls them a blue blood. You get a grace period of about a generation before your status starts to slip but it will slip.
Just because common folks are morons doesn't make them correct.
#terminologymattters
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:15 am to Cheese Grits
I think the grace period depends on how long you win.
Thus, I think the grace period for someone like Miami, UF, FSU is going to be less than say...Notre Dame, USC, etc.
I mean, Notre Dame has fielded nationally competitive teams damn near each decade. The 2000’s were probably the worst.
Thus, I think the grace period for someone like Miami, UF, FSU is going to be less than say...Notre Dame, USC, etc.
I mean, Notre Dame has fielded nationally competitive teams damn near each decade. The 2000’s were probably the worst.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:19 am to randomways
quote:Except this isn't the 1800's. Through his logic, a University with 28 claimed national titles would undoubtedly be a blue blood. It doesn't matter that the last title came in 1950.
No team starts out as a blue blood.
quote:His whole point is that once you establish yourself as such, it never goes away. You can bet your arse by around the time the 20th national title claim came around, they were being called blue bloods or something of that nature. I'm obviously not labeling them blue bloods, moreso using the logic of his own argument (that blue blood status doesn't go away) to show how illogical it is. We're literally arguing the same point that blue blood status is just as much dependent on consistent recent success and health of the program as it is past history.
there's no logical reason to retroactively assign them the title since the nature of the blue bloods inevitably revolves around their current status.
The Ivy school example is just an exaggeration of that point. You're smart. You knew that.
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 12:22 am
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:22 am to Drewbie
Nope. My whole point is that you're misunderstanding what blue blood means.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:25 am to Prof
quote:You called Harvard a blue blood.
you're misunderstanding what blue blood means.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:26 am to Drewbie
Yep and you're dumb enough to laugh at that.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:31 am to Drewbie
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It doesn't matter that the last title came in 1950.
It does
If it helps you can break CFB into eras and a schools power it limited by the era.
ERA I = 1800's to 1913 || Domination by east coast private schools
ERA II = 1914 to 1945 || Domination east of the Mississippi and some state schools
ERA III = 1946 to 1979 || Rise of the state schools with the GI Bill
ERA IV = 1980 to 2018 || Fall of NCAA and rise of ESPN
The Ivy League clearly dominated in the infancy of college football but has not held sway since. Nobody would consider them a blue blood of modern FBS football. Chicago had to fall for Ohio State to rise.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:34 am to Cheese Grits
quote:That was my point. I was arguing the other side.
It does
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:34 am to Cheese Grits
quote:Talk to Mr. Harvard is a Blue Blood over there.
The Ivy League clearly dominated in the infancy of college football but has not held sway since. Nobody would consider them a blue blood of modern FBS football.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:35 am to BamaNatureBoy
1 more than Mississippi State has in every team sport ever sponsored by the NCAA across all of history
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:36 am to BowlJackson
quote:I just don't know how you can possibly try to talk shite with this hanging over you constantly. That's baffling.
1 more than Mississippi State has in every team sport ever sponsored by the NCAA across all of history
Posted on 12/6/18 at 2:18 am to Prof
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Current status rises and falls but being a blue blood is a permanent state.
Minnesota and Nebraska say hi
Posted on 12/6/18 at 6:50 am to Prof
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You can say that ND isn't the powerhouse they once were but they'll always be a blue blood. That's not something that goes away. Current status rises and falls but being a blue blood is a permanent state.
Princeton and Yale say hi
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 6:52 am
Posted on 12/6/18 at 6:56 am to Tigerman97
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ND the uga of Independents.
You’re aware Auburn also has 1 NC in the last 40 years, right?
Posted on 12/6/18 at 6:59 am to BamaNatureBoy
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In the last 40 years Notre Dame has 1 NC.
They are not a blue blood program any more.
In the same time frame
Bama has 8
Miami 5
FSU UF Neb. Have 3
Ole Miss 0
Notre Dame has a problem. It's called "academic standards".
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