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re: In Favor Of Scrapping Permanent Cross Division Games?
Posted on 8/17/19 at 7:51 am to Farmer1906
Posted on 8/17/19 at 7:51 am to Farmer1906
This is the best realistic soln?
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Auburn: Bama UF, UGA
Stupid.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 7:54 am to USCrown
I’d just like to point out that Ole Miss got to play Vandy every year for 20+ years and still never got close to making it to Atlanta. 

Posted on 8/17/19 at 8:57 am to USCrown
No. Nine or even ten conference games. If you are in a conference, you should play the teams in the conference. If you are scared to play them, then get the hell out.
FWIW, I say no to the question not because of UA-ut but because of UGA-barn. Using an old Danny Ford triple negative; Auburn and UGA ain't never not played.
Auburn and UGA have played every year in which both fielded a football team ever since both started to play football. SEC doesn't need to frick that up.
FWIW, I say no to the question not because of UA-ut but because of UGA-barn. Using an old Danny Ford triple negative; Auburn and UGA ain't never not played.
Auburn and UGA have played every year in which both fielded a football team ever since both started to play football. SEC doesn't need to frick that up.
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 9:07 am
Posted on 8/17/19 at 9:19 am to MC123
Ole miss got close. But Eli wuz trippin.
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 9:21 am
Posted on 8/17/19 at 9:31 am to USCrown
There's just nothing there with A&M. Something definitely needs to change.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 9:39 am to USCrown
quote:Otherwise known as bye week
Alabama vs. Tennessee

Posted on 8/17/19 at 9:59 am to twk
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You'd need a slight tweak of the NCAA rule on championship games, but they did it for the Big XII, so it would be no problem.
You would need a huge tweak, and it ain't gonna happen. The NCAA still requires a round robin schedule with or without divisions, and it will be a cold day in hell before they change that stance.
NCAA told the Big 12, HELL NO! IMO, it was stupid of them to not go to divisions. At some point, they are going to have an undefeated team, and the Big 12, eliminated from the CFP because of a CG loss to a two loss team they would have already defeated in the round robin.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:00 am to USCrown
I would want to get rid of a game that I have literally never won too
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:15 am to 3down10
That's not my point.
Divisions gives 7 teams, I think, 5 common opponents, which makes ranking them easier. That leaves 2 teams from the other division on the schedule.
However, I know DSOR, WLOCP, TSIO, IB, Egg Bowl, TN/Vandy, etc. AREN'T going away. Therefore, UGA has 2 slots always taken, so does Ala., Aub., & Tn.. Fl., Vandy. & both Miss. used 1 slot.
So we have this:
4 with 6 openings
4 with 7 openings
6 with 8 openings
Give me a FAIR & BALANCED schedule format that everybody rotates evenly.
My point is there's a HIGH probability that of not having the same schedule as anybody else. So what are you comparing?
Say, Team A has Ky., Miss., MSU, Vandy, & Mizz...going 5-0..
Team B has UGA, Ala., Aub., Fl., & LSU... going 2-3. You're telling me that Team A should be ranked higher because of their record being better...despite the teams they played?
Also, I've given you 2 5 team schedules with NO common opponents.
My ultimate point is going division-less is more complex to sort/rank teams than with divisions who gives 7 teams 5 common opponents & 1 H2H.
& before somebody says "the NCAA tweaked their rules for B12", they also shouldn't have because everybody met each year.
Divisions gives 7 teams, I think, 5 common opponents, which makes ranking them easier. That leaves 2 teams from the other division on the schedule.
However, I know DSOR, WLOCP, TSIO, IB, Egg Bowl, TN/Vandy, etc. AREN'T going away. Therefore, UGA has 2 slots always taken, so does Ala., Aub., & Tn.. Fl., Vandy. & both Miss. used 1 slot.
So we have this:
4 with 6 openings
4 with 7 openings
6 with 8 openings
Give me a FAIR & BALANCED schedule format that everybody rotates evenly.
My point is there's a HIGH probability that of not having the same schedule as anybody else. So what are you comparing?
Say, Team A has Ky., Miss., MSU, Vandy, & Mizz...going 5-0..
Team B has UGA, Ala., Aub., Fl., & LSU... going 2-3. You're telling me that Team A should be ranked higher because of their record being better...despite the teams they played?
Also, I've given you 2 5 team schedules with NO common opponents.
My ultimate point is going division-less is more complex to sort/rank teams than with divisions who gives 7 teams 5 common opponents & 1 H2H.
& before somebody says "the NCAA tweaked their rules for B12", they also shouldn't have because everybody met each year.
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 10:18 am
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:25 am to scrooster
6 letters: TSIO & IB
Doing that FORCES 1 of those to end!
Because Tn. would dump Ala. for Vandy & Aub. would keep the IB with Ala..
Congrats, you've just ended the SEC's 2nd oldest rivalry - TSIO.
or
Tn. would dump Vandy for Ala. & would put Vandy/Aub. together
Congrats, you've just ended the IB & Tn./Vandy rivalries.
While you at it, let's split Miss. & MSU!
Doing that FORCES 1 of those to end!
Because Tn. would dump Ala. for Vandy & Aub. would keep the IB with Ala..
Congrats, you've just ended the SEC's 2nd oldest rivalry - TSIO.
or
Tn. would dump Vandy for Ala. & would put Vandy/Aub. together
Congrats, you've just ended the IB & Tn./Vandy rivalries.
While you at it, let's split Miss. & MSU!
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 10:34 am
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:35 am to scrooster
Why not a WLOCP, TSIO, Egg Bowl, ...?
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:40 am to bamagreycoat
Y'all do now talking the opposite that this game is basically an instant W for Ala..
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:46 am to ALA2262
You might have that skewed. Somebody could go 9-0 & make the cg. Say the next team is 8-1 (only losing to the 9-0 team). They also make the cg.
8-1 beats 9-0 making both 9-1 with loses to each other.
WHO gets chosen?
8-1 beats 9-0 making both 9-1 with loses to each other.
WHO gets chosen?
Posted on 8/17/19 at 11:21 am to southernboisb
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You might have that skewed. Somebody could go 9-0 & make the cg. Say the next team is 8-1 (only losing to the 9-0 team). They also make the cg.
8-1 beats 9-0 making both 9-1 with loses to each other.
WHO gets chosen?
Yep, that also.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:28 pm to southernboisb
quote:Both go, and we say frick one of the other P5 conferences.
You might have that skewed. Somebody could go 9-0 & make the cg. Say the next team is 8-1 (only losing to the 9-0 team). They also make the cg.
8-1 beats 9-0 making both 9-1 with loses to each other.
WHO gets chosen?
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:34 pm to USCrown
Auburn/Georgia and Alabama/Tennessee should be the only 2 preserved. There's no point in preserving Florida vs LSU. That's not a rivalry at all.
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:36 pm to USCrown
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Any ideas?
No, your Idea is a good one....
Posted on 8/17/19 at 1:26 pm to USCrown
I say we lose about four teams and go back to the way things were for decades.
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