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re: i'm surprised SC doesn't think the penalty on the nussmeier hit wasn't a penalty

Posted on 9/15/24 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by Flavius C Julianus
Member since Sep 2024
129 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 2:44 pm to
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Here is the entire blindsided block rule. Nowhere is "defenseless" mentioned.


*sigh* Go back and read the definition of “defenseless player”. You even quoted it.
Posted by Flavius C Julianus
Member since Sep 2024
129 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 2:45 pm to
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The only time that applies is if targeting ALSO applies.


Wrong.

Read Article 4, Approved Ruling 9-1-4, Item X. for an example.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31885 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 3:03 pm to
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Read Article 4, Approved Ruling 9-1-4, Item X. for an example.



Here's what that says...

quote:

On a punt return, B44 launches at A66 from the blind side and drives his shoulder into him The force of the contact is at A66’s side below the shoulder RULING: Foul for blind-side block A66 is a defenseless player because B44 executes a blind-side block However, this is not a targeting foul because the forcible contact is not to the head/neck area


So, Again defenseless only applies to targeting. Per the TARGETING rule the player is defenseless because he meets one of the criteria listed in Article 14, specifically 14.g. A player who receives a blindside block. So in your example the penalty would be for the blindside block, but the player would not be guilty of targeting because it doesn't meet all the criteria. But being defenseless in this case has nothing to do with the blindside block itself,it would be a blindside block regardless. I this case blindside block it's simply one of the criteria used to determine if the player is defenseless and if targeting applies.

The thought process goes like this:

Step 1.) Is the player defenseless? Yes, because of Article 14.g
Step two 2) Is it targeting? No. because the forcible contact is not to the head/neck area. (ie the other elements of targeting don't apply).

Are you really that dense?
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 3:12 pm
Posted by Flavius C Julianus
Member since Sep 2024
129 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 3:12 pm to
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Are you really that dense?


Bro, I would not be casting aspersions like this when you cannot interpret this rule correctly. Being defenseless is an element of targeting, you’re correct on that, but targeting is not the sole rule where being defenseless applies. I’m not sure why you’re having a disconnect on this.

Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31885 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 3:20 pm to
Again, I quoted the entire blindside block rule. NOWHERE does it mention that the player has to be defenseless. That applies to, and only to, targeting.

Your LSU education is showing..

In fact from Article 18....

quote:

Blind-Side Block—ARTICLE 18 Approved Ruling 9-1-18

B44 intercepts the pass of A12 at the B-20 and turns back up-field on the return

During the return, B21 approaches A88 at midfield from the blind side and blocks A88
(a) with extended hands;
(b) with a screen type block;
(c) by attacking with forcible contact with his shoulder into the chest of A88;
(d) by attacking with forcible contact with the shoulder into the head of A88 B44 returns the pass to the A-20

RULING:
(a) No foul
(b) No foul
(c) Personal Foul, blind-side block, 15-yard penalty from the spot of the foul
(d) Personal Foul, Blind-Side Block with Targeting, 15-yard penalty from the spot of the foul and B21 is disqualified


Reading that description and looking at this gif,



Which one of those scenarios best applies? You HAVE to settle on scenario A. (and also give you the evidence you've been pestering DawginSC for.)

You're wrong on this one man, let it go and accept the gift the refs gave you.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 3:21 pm
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10900 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 3:38 pm to






Here to help.
Posted by tigerbait17
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
1375 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 3:38 pm to
That is a textbook personal foul in todays game. The defender has to know better.

I do not agree I think it is a lame call but they are calling that 10/10 times.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27107 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 3:55 pm to
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That is a textbook personal foul in todays game. The defender has to know better.
He did. That's exactly 100% the reason why he immediately threw up his hands acting liking he was an innocent angel. He knew, the 3 different refs that threw 3 different flags knew and LSU fans knew .

Only Gamecock fans didn't know.
Posted by TigerScorpion
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2018
1627 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:44 pm to
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The most telling part is Pussmier stands their for a few seconds and then takes off for the ball carrier. IMHO, this makes him fair game to block by SC.


Lol, this video shows perfectly it was a blindside hit. Whatever the frick the refs wanted to call it, it’s still a bitch move and an egregious example of the penalty. frick off with this crying bullshite.
Posted by Soonerd78
Member since Sep 2024
2524 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:49 pm to
He didn’t hit him hard or anything …. He is allowed to block him…. Problem is he didn’t even need to do it . I don’t think it’s a blindside block he hit him in his upper left shoulder . It’s not the players fault the qb wasn’t looking his way . His hit wasn’t from behind or from the side .
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 11:51 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
45962 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:51 pm to
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The LSU quarterback has a gaping vagina. What an absolute puss.


Not a rival, why you care?


Pussy
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8623 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:26 am to
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it was a vicious hit


Bruh
Posted by scmustang
Charleston SC
Member since Nov 2016
189 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:01 am to
Why does he even wear pads on the field if he can’t be touched. Put a skirt on him
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3530 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 7:28 am to
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Clearly was not a penalty.
it's the epitome of blind side block.
Posted by scmustang
Charleston SC
Member since Nov 2016
189 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 8:32 am to
Only pads Nussmeyer should be wearing is a maxi pad
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 8:42 am to
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and nuss wasn't looking


That's on Nuss. Just because he's not used to getting blocked doesn't exempt him from understanding "head on a swivel" when he is going to make a tackle.
USC blocker got hands in front. welcome to football
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