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re: I'm still not convinced that the Bama 4th down was a bad play call.

Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:51 am to
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50368 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:51 am to
One bama lineman did not block anyone
The low snap didn’t allow milroe to look at rb and messed up the whole play
That bama center likely needs to move Away from Tuscaloosa
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 10:53 am
Posted by SmithsAuFan
San Diego, CA
Member since Jul 2013
1971 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:52 am to
The snap was bad and 65 got blown off the ball so bad that he tripped Milroe.

Milroe likely would have ran left. But he had to start up the middle first then bounce. They left a defender unblocked who over pursued the play(unblocked likely due to play design).
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:52 am to
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Thoughts?
frick bama. Roll tears roll
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6796 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:53 am to
It wasn’t just a good call, it was the ONLY call.

Your quarterback just fumbled the ball being indecisive running on the perimeter. He completely had the yips all game. Not the first time we’ve seen that from him.

Forget about giving him an option to throw it. You give him one decision. That makes the play call options very limited. You don’t trust your qb to make a run/throw option, and I’m not trusting him to make a read from the 3 yard line against that pass rush. No damn way.

You showed the most success right up the middle against that defense. A defense that gets up the field and is disruptive, go right at them. And they did.

And it should have worked. If Milroe follows the pulling guard and cuts left he scores. Maybe he does that if the snap isn’t low instead of just diving in the pile. But the snap was low and he panicked. Perhaps if the snap isn’t low, he doesn’t panic, and the play works.

It wasn’t executed. It was the right call and the only call but it wasn’t executed by the offense.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8817 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:55 am to
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I'm still not convinced that the Bama 4th down was a bad play call.



Everybody knew they were going to go with QB counter. It is a very effective call against what Michigan was doing up front. Uses some of their aggression to the offense's advantage and has a numbers advantage typically. Alabama had used it repeatedly since the later stages of the 1st half.

Alabama's OL didn't win their matchups well enough and the snap was so piss-poor that Milroe couldn't turn chicken shite into chicken salad. I didn't really matter if they knew it was coming or not. They'd been knowing it was coming most of the 2nd half and failed to stop it. Alabama's OL got beat badly.

But in the final analysis, it was a bad play call because it didn't work. That's how it goes.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16573 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:55 am to
I can’t decide if Milroe is a bad QB who can run really well or a good running back with a decent arm. If Bama had a good QB and used Milroe in the wildcat they would be unstoppable.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:36 am to
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Milroe likely would have ran left. But he had to start up the middle first then bounce.


Milroe never made an attempt to go left. He ran straight then tripped over his right tackle and dove forward.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
6724 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:42 am to
I definitely think it was an rpo with the RB swinging into the left flat looking back for the ball and two WRs out there to block for him. I think Milroe panicked when the snap hit the dirt.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:56 am to
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Everybody knew they were going to go with QB counter


It wasn't counter.

Only the right guard pulled.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
9560 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 12:20 pm to
At the same time, I think the UM end went so far upfield because Milroe was still so far back and to the center. If the snap were better and he'd gone upfield faster, I think the end pulls inside sooner. Maybe it's a 50/50 shot, as Milroe would have momentum. But it is a better shot.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30813 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 12:32 pm to
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It wasn't a bad play. Milroe fricked yall.

Another bad snap threw the timing of the play off. It was supposed to be an RPO, but the snap made Milroe's first move delayed, so the LB had the opportunity to start early moving toward the motion of the RB. That took away the numbers advantage for Alabama....shite happens.
Posted by mls4bama
albertville,al
Member since Sep 2015
1539 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 12:36 pm to
Dont matter !!!
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16584 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 1:12 pm to
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but I still think you have to try to get the ball to one of your playmakers in space and make them run down field to stop you.

The RB was wide open in the flat, Milroe never saw him.

You can argue it was due to the low snap, but he would’ve walked in with a basic pitch or screen pass.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8817 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 1:24 pm to
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It wasn't counter.

Only the right guard pulled.



You're right.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7667 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 1:31 pm to
BAMA had plenty of time and opportunity to get in position for their ice-cold kicker to kick a game-winning FG at the end of regulation. He would've probably been good from 55-58 yards. Offense needed to pick up 34-37 yards to give Reichard a legitimate chance. They could only muster 18. How many times did they run? Once, and it was a scramble. Milroe was 2/4 for 11 yards on that "drive". Why let Milroe run on 4th and goal in OT down 7 and not at the end of regulation?
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