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re: If you had control, how would you set up the new 4 pod SEC adding UT and OU?

Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:37 pm to
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there should be no longer any permanent opponents...

I agree, but that's not going to happen.

That means LSU/Alabama, Florida/Tennessee, Auburn/Georgia all won't be played annually anymore. It's just not going to happen. Those are huge TV games.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 12:38 pm
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
78536 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:42 pm to
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I agree, but that's not going to happen.



you don't know that...


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That means LSU/Alabama, Florida/Tennessee, Auburn/Georgia all won't be played annually anymore. It's just not going to happen. Those are huge TV games.



You can still have huge games without permanent opponents and it lessens the chances that two facing each other twice in one season for the conference title...
Posted by Bobbylsu7777777
Member since Jul 2021
93 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:44 pm to
I agree 2 division only way to be fair for conference champ game. How would explain winning your division and miss out on champ game? Already toughest route to playoffs , can’t add more games to do a conference playoff.
Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
4345 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:56 pm to
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There is no way the SEC should ever have a North division.


Completely agree. SEC North sounds dumb. Even blasphemous.

I’d prefer East, West, South, Mid (or Central) if sticking to directions.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4078 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:04 pm to
We should do away with divisions totally and have a single conference. Play 9 games, Allow 3 mutually agreeable permanent games. Do home and away with the remaining teams over 4 years with an eye towards balancing difficulty across years. Top 2 teams in the league meet for the championship game.

o increases permanent game flexibility. e.g. Bama; AU TN LSU: AU; Bama GA FL: FL; GA AU KT: LSU; Bama TX OM

o Insures that the best teams are represented in the CG. No div breakdown can guarantee that.

o Gives a better overall opportunity to balance schedules across the conference. Nothing is perfect here, but I think you can do a better job than any division breakdown.

o Pods create the need for more playoff games. With the expanded playoff system proposed, they are unnecessary and upsets can create problems.
Posted by alumni95
Member since Jun 2004
7592 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:12 pm to
All of you listing Tennessee (and/or Auburn) in any pool other than Bama’s are just wasting your time.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:56 pm to
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Ole Miss, State, LSU, A&M
Arkansas, Mizzou, Texas, Oklahoma
Auburn, Bama, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky USCe



This is easily the best and most balanced one I’ve seen.
If we end up with 4 pods this is the one I’d favor.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:59 pm to
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Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, Kentucky
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vandy
LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss St.
A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Mizzou


This would give LSU the easiest pod by far.
Would be great for the Tigers but would throw the balance off and the other big players in the league will not allow it.

We are more likely to get a pod that has Bama, Vandy, Kentucky and Miss State than we are to get that LSU pod.
Posted by SanFranTiger
Santa Fe, NM
Member since Sep 2003
4987 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:32 pm to
frick pods.

Just two divisions of 8 teams.

Add Texas and Ou to west. Boot Bama and Auburn to East
Posted by RPC4LSU
Thibodaux, LA
Member since Jan 2006
2010 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:32 pm to
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IMO Bama should get to keep either Auburn or Tenn... not both, just because.


No more permanent out of division/pod games. You've killed tradition once you've invited A&M, TU, OU, and Mizzou to join.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4096 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:34 pm to
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Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, Kentucky
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vandy
LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss St.
A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Mizzou


The only problem with those PODS relates to the UGA/Auburn game. That is the oldest game in the history of Southern Football. Not sure how UGA and Auburn are going to react to that.
Posted by GeauxOn
Texas
Member since Mar 2014
285 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:49 pm to
This breakdown would create two top heavy pods. But keep all the rivalries intact aside from Bama/Tennessee, but that rivalry hasn't been relevant in 20 years.

West:
LSU
A&M
UT
OU

South:
Ole Miss
MS State
Arkansas
Mizzou

East:
Bama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia

North:
Vandy
Tenn
UK
SC

North and South would be weaker pods, but gives those schools better chance at winning league games. Play each team in your pod and rotate 2 from each other pod.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4096 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:56 pm to
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This breakdown would create two top heavy pods. But keep all the rivalries intact aside from Bama/Tennessee, but that rivalry hasn't been relevant in 20 years.

West:
LSU
A&M
UT
OU

South:
Ole Miss
MS State
Arkansas
Mizzou

East:
Bama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia

North:
Vandy
Tenn
UK
SC

North and South would be weaker pods, but gives those schools better chance at winning league games. Play each team in your pod and rotate 2 from each other pod.


Ok, but your POD format does solve the problem and now TENN and Alabama don't play every year.

Now that is not something to us, but for those 2 fan bases it is.
Posted by Nexus of the Univers
New York City
Member since Feb 2018
323 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:01 pm to
I would keep it East and West Divisions. No permanent cross rivals. Rotate two new cross divisional opponents every year in order to play every team on the other side once every 4 yrs and visit their stadiums once every 8 yrs.

East
Florida
Georgia
S. Carolina
Tennessee
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Auburn
Alabama

West
LSU
Ole Miss
Miss State
Arkansas
Missouri
A&M
Texas
Oklahoma
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 3:08 pm
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4096 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:07 pm to
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All of you listing Tennessee (and/or Auburn) in any pool other than Bama’s are just wasting your time.


I agree, and I actually understand. The older I get, I think some Traditions of the SEC should remain. TENN and Bama want to play, Bama and Auburn are going to play, Auburn in this POD gets the TENN game back, which use to be part of what there older fans use to call "Amen Corner", a node to the Masters 11, 12 and 13, when they played Florida, TENN, UGA and Bama.

IF Tulane never left the SEC, LSU fans would not want that game to go away. Back in the day, LSU and Tulane fans would meet at some bar in Uptown New Orleans and the winning team's fans would sit in carts or wheel barrows and the loosing team fans would push them bar to bar and buy them drinks, etc.

Growing up on North Shore, I remember watching this on New Orleans TV stations who would show it during the sports time. I am thinking back to the days of the late Hap Glaudi and Buddy D, etc.

Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10621 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:11 pm to
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North:
Oklahoma
Mizzou
Vanderbilt
Kentucky


NAH!!! Oklahoma has had the easiest path to the CFP since it's inception and these are the 3 cupcakes you want to match them up with in the same SEC division? frick that.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4096 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:11 pm to
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I would keep it East and West Divisions. No permanent cross rivals. Rotate two new cross divisional opponents every year in order to play every team on the other side once every 4 yrs and visit their stadiums once every 8 yrs.

East
Florida
Georgia
S. Carolina
Tennessee
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Auburn
Alabama

West
LSU
Ole Miss
Miss State
Arkansas
Missouri
A&M
Texas
Oklahoma


Well 100% disagree, LSU is not in a division with only 2 charter members of the SEC. Teams like Florida, Auburn, Alabama who we have a long history with, UK as well, although don't play them as much in the last 15 years, are now teams we see twice every 5 years.


Your way is better than a 7, 1 permanent cross over and 1 rotation team, etc.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
7585 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:14 pm to
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now TENN and Alabama don't play every year.


Then the logical thing would be to put Bama, Tenn, Aub and UGA in the same pod. Tell them if they just have to play every year, then that’s the deal. But we know that won’t happen.

I fully expect the SEC to gak this up instead of acting in the conference’s best interests.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4096 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:16 pm to
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Then the logical thing would be to put Bama, Tenn, Aub and UGA in the same pod. Tell them if they just have to play every year, then that’s the deal. But we know that won’t happen.

I fully expect the SEC to gak this up instead of acting in the conference’s best interests.


Ok, but look at what your POD looks like. Florida and UGA, which I would argue other than Bama/Auburn and UGA/Auburn is the 3rd most historical important rivalry in the SEC can't be played. That is not going to happen either.
Posted by DTig
Member since Apr 2019
538 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:19 pm to
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the pod system...2 8 team divisions...east and west..
.

It's easier to be a pod champ than a division champ so it would be easier to get into the playoff if they have it.
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