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re: If you can’t hit a guy at the goal line who’s trying to score

Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:07 pm to
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:07 pm to
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frick this gay earth.




with these fricking gay referees and the idiot fans who support them, i'm trending toward being done with this game and just focusing on baseball



I think it's usually the "players" who quit after 9th grade who are the big authorities on "targeting"

you know it, because spearing has been a penalty forever, and these douchebags don't fricking know what that means
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14164 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:08 pm to
So how exactly do you dive in on a guy trying to push over the line with your shoulder that low WITHOUT lowing your head.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
6893 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:09 pm to
Where was the runners head when the defender made his mind up to attack the runner at that particular angle? Only one person on this earth knows and it ain’t some desk jockey looking at a replay 52 times in a row.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13194 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:10 pm to
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Tuscaloosa

People like you are ruining the greatest sport on earth. How anyone can rally behind unintentional helmet to helmet hits as an ejection and penalty is mind boggling.

Players are running full speed, shifting, juking, jiving, lunging, ducking, etc. and a helmet to helmet hit is sometimes unavoidable.

A non-malicious, non-intentional hit should NEVER be penalized. It defies logic to penalize and eject. Some of you fricks should take up soccer.
Posted by MAROON
Houston
Member since Jul 2012
1773 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:10 pm to
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His helmet hit the ball,


Huh? Didn’t even remotely happen. His helmet hit the QB in the side of the head while his shoulder hit him squarely in the neck.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35857 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:11 pm to
it's sad you think that's "proof" of anything


it's fans like you who will end up destroying this game




"textbook targeting"? There's no such thing as "targeting". There's been such a thing as spearing forever.

Have fun helping destroy the game.
This post was edited on 12/28/22 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13194 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:11 pm to
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with these fricking gay referees and the idiot fans who support them, i'm trending toward being done with this game and just focusing on baseball

Brother, I'm getting dangerously close myself. The people in suits are attempting to ruin this sport.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35857 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:13 pm to
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His helmet hit the QB in the side of the head while his shoulder hit him squarely in the neck.







and??


what a bunch of fricking pussies

that's why people wear helmets

this game is over. The soyboys have taken over and it's fricking over.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24698 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:17 pm to
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His helmet hit the ball, ball came popping out. There was no helmet to helmet whatsoever


That's not what a targeting call requires.

The rule is there to protect the tackler as mucb as the runner.

The tackler can suffer neck and spine injury using the crown if his helmet.

Doesn't have to be helmet to helmet.


Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:25 pm to
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"textbook targeting"? There's no such thing as "targeting". There's been such a thing as spearing forever.


Yeah, there’s an actual written rule about it. Nobody said I liked it. But we can call a spade a spade, by the rules that are written. Whether or not the rule sucks arse isn’t being discussed here.

At least two of these qualifiers were met on that play.

2022 NCAA Rulebook 9-4-1 Note 1

Note 1: “Targeting” means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:

• Launch. A player leaving their feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area.

• A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground.

• Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area.

• Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24698 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:27 pm to
No need trying to explain anything to these idiots.

They can't comprehend anything.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:32 pm to
I think they’re mostly just emotional, and it would be much worse if they had lost.

The rule is actually fairly black and white now, exponentially more well defined than when it was initially implemented over a decade ago. Yeah, I think it could be improved dramatically, but there is a clearly defined rule and that rule was clearly broken.
This post was edited on 12/28/22 at 9:33 pm
Posted by LPLGTiger
Member since May 2013
1289 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:32 pm to
The defensive player shouldn’t be penalized for the offensive player falling into his helmet. Or getting tight to take the impact hit.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
6893 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:34 pm to
I comprehend that the rule needs major revision to save this sport. There is laying wood to a defenseless player over the middle. And then there is a guy trying to make a defensive football play at the goal line at the end of overtime and being punished for it.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
6893 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:37 pm to
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I think they’re mostly just emotional, and it would be much worse if they had lost.

Personally, I’m always upset by misapplication of this rule. I was pissed when the Clemson linebacker got tossed against my alma mater in the dome in January 2020. They just expect players to make a decision in a millisecond that is impossible to make without being invisible.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 10:00 pm to
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They just expect players to make a decision in a millisecond that is impossible to make without being invisible.


This is a fair argument, and I think the rule implementation - although much better than it was initially - still has a ways to go.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13194 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 10:09 pm to
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No need trying to explain anything to these idiots.

They can't comprehend anything.

You dumb frick.

We understand the rules. We are saying that the logic behind the rules, why the rules were even originated, and the enforcement of said rules comes from a suit and tie originator and defies common sense and logic.

People like yourself that take things lying down are why this country is in the mess that it's in and why football is being ruined right before all of our eyes. Take your sanctimonious post and shove it up your arse.
This post was edited on 12/28/22 at 10:12 pm
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95882 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 10:11 pm to
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We understand the rules. We are saying that the logic behind the rules and why the rules were even originated is stupid.


You definitely do not speak for OP. Most of us have said we don’t like/agree with the rule. But it’s the rule.
Posted by Csmims
Orange Beach Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
1840 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 10:19 pm to
Maybe you should consider better glasses.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35857 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 10:20 pm to
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The defensive player shouldn’t be penalized for the offensive player falling into his helmet. Or getting tight to take the impact hit.




Military industrial complex salesmen chickenhawks who quit football after 6th grade are not capable of understanding this
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