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re: “If you can’t beat them buy them” Leave it to both Texas schools to ruin this great sport

Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by PaulsBunions
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:22 pm to
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LSU Recruiting War Room


Playoff participation trophies is the best he can do.
Posted by Blackgloves
Texas
Member since Aug 2021
3776 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:24 pm to
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Lmfao this thread coming from the SEc is ironic as frick


Don't make me give you an upvote
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42110 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:25 pm to
I'm actually upvoting a stephen post.

Send help.


There's a difference, at least to me, in allowing guys to make money off of their name/image/likeness on their own and telling a recruit that companies that support that school will have big NIL deals waiting for that recruit if he goes to that school. Texas is doing the latter.
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Fuegoqueso
Houston
Member since Oct 2013
675 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:27 pm to
CFB has always been about money. Now players are getting a cut too. Cry moar
Posted by Blackgloves
Texas
Member since Aug 2021
3776 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:28 pm to
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I'm actually upvoting a stephen post.


You agree with the OP? If so, how?? Do you think Saban and the Bama program have been 100% squeaky clean this entire time? Cheating is cheating, some have been better at it than others. Now its no longer cheating or harder to "cheat" given its legal
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42110 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:29 pm to
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You agree with the OP? If so, how??

See what I added to my above post.
Posted by Blackgloves
Texas
Member since Aug 2021
3776 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:30 pm to
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There's a difference, at least to me, in allowing guys to make money off of their name/image/likeness on their own and telling a recruit that companies that support that school will have big NIL deals waiting for that recruit if he goes to that school. Texas is doing the latter.


I just caught your edit so I'm responding. What you just said, to my knowledge is completely legal.

I didn't down vote you lol
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42110 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:33 pm to
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What you just said, to my knowledge is completely legal.

Oh, it definitely seems to be, I just don't think it is a good thing for college football for NIL to be used that way.
Posted by Milehighhorn
Member since Jun 2021
5 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:35 pm to
In all seriousness, the methods and ways this is happening are very different.

Jimbo is just going completely unhinged with the bag game and has dropped an eye popping number on recruits this cycle from the handouts of the army of rabid insurance agents in their alumni base. It's almost like he has an impending sense of desperation, or the fact that he has the identical record as Sumlin. Only his platform shoe guy knows for sure.

Texas donors never wanted to get into that world en masse, so NIL is something that they can use to support the program.

More importantly, Ohio State, LSU, Bama, etc. are not going to be able to come in to Texas with impunity and take all of the top players out of the state like they have for the last decade. Personally I like seeing Ohio State get the pimp hand from Texas the most today.

LSU does similar things for the most part with Louisiana kids and is super aggressive about keeping schools out, although I sense that Bryan Kelly may open the borders a bit with his faymily approachability and jettisoning of stud coaches.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:35 pm to
Faggies my buddies at Texas are planning to tell recruits to get your best offer from A&M and we are going to give you a little card with a number and X after it and that’s the number of times we double their offer.

They just paid 4 million for back up QB. Everyone on Texas football team will make 1 million and up if they stay 4 years next year and they will increase as needed (250k a year)
Posted by Blackgloves
Texas
Member since Aug 2021
3776 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:37 pm to
I respect that. Lots of people have been complaining about it. Over on texags they were even complaining when the news first hit.

I feel like a lot of fans that complain about it are just scared they'll slowly fade away from the top 10.

Bama fans are probably thinking "keep it the way it was." For obvious reasons

We won't know how this truly effects football for about 10 years
Posted by ChapelHillSooner
Chapel Hill
Member since Dec 2020
593 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:38 pm to
I think the NCAA will fix this. Texas, BYU, Miami deals are all pay-for-play. They don't even try to hide it.

The NCAA didn't have a lot of restrictions but one was that an NIL deal can't be used as a pay-for-play scheme or to entice players to a specific university. By giving all players at only a specific school deals, this violates both.

Also, the IRS will be very interested in what Texas is doing.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:41 pm to
What Texas is doing is completely legal and they will actually pay taxes, the players that is versus what was going on with cash payments and bag men. So IRS is going to do much better with this system.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43978 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:41 pm to
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Faggies my buddies at Texas are planning to tell recruits to get your best offer from A&M and we are going to give you a little card with a number and X after it and that’s the number of times we double their offer.

They just paid 4 million for back up QB. Everyone on Texas football team will make 1 million and up if they stay 4 years next year and they will increase as needed (250k a year)

Fine by me.
Get all the offers out on the table, so we can know with what we’re working and how to counter it (if we’re even interested in doing so).
As many on this board have so often said to us ... money doesn’t buy championships.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43978 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:44 pm to
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Texas donors never wanted to get into that world en masse

Posted by Milehighhorn
Member since Jun 2021
5 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:47 pm to
It's not pay for play any more than any other NIL deal is. We are assigning a baseline market value to NIL for a player coming to TX. They can go out and get stuff over and above that on their own. Just because a kid knows that their position group will have a reasonable NIL deal walking in the door doesn't change a ton. Ask BYU how it helped their recruiting this year.
Posted by Milehighhorn
Member since Jun 2021
5 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:48 pm to
If Texas decided to do the bag game like A&M you guys would be a smoking crater. Let's be real here.
Posted by ChapelHillSooner
Chapel Hill
Member since Dec 2020
593 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:49 pm to
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What Texas is doing is completely legal and they will actually pay taxes, the players that is versus what was going on with cash payments and bag men. So IRS is going to do much better with this system.


Yes, players will pay taxes. That wasn't my point.

By making it a "charitable organization" the donors can deduct the donations which are used to pay the players.

That is not a legal use of a charitable organization.
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
7550 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:57 pm to
so you don’t like “strong arse offers” now?
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:52 pm to
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That is not a legal use of a charitable organization.



I agree. Boosters should not get tax deductions for the money they are spending in this regard. It seems calling these charitable non-profits is pretty fraudulent.
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