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re: If USC beats Clemson

Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:51 am to
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2321 Boomed Your Sooner Avenue
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Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:51 am to
Nice avatar picture

Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
7992 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:51 am to
Yes there's a chance.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14946 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Clemson is the only 3 loss team with a chance to get in


So if South Carolina beats Clempson and gives them their 3rd loss you think they would have a better chance than any other 3 loss team including us
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
8354 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:17 am to
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What is your best win?
44-20 over the current #15 in the CFP poll - if you want to use rankings -
Posted by PrezCock
Florida
Member since Sep 2019
857 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:29 am to
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Ole Miss has 3 losses. What was that score again?


Ole Miss has lost to Kentucky, LSU (13), and Florida.

Bama has lost to Vandy, Tennessee (11), and Oklahoma.

Both of those teams have 2 losses to non-quality teams. USC doesn't have that. USC has lost to quality teams. LSU was ranked 16th when we lost to them, Ole Miss 12th, and Bama 7th.

USC, by far, has the better resume in comparison to the SEC's 3 loss teams. Now I will agree with one of the posters, Bama gets the nod because it's Bama.

I'll even throw in A&M, losses to ND (7), USC, and Auburn. Their record is better than Ole Miss and Bama.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3669 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:34 am to
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Both of those teams have 2 losses to non-quality teams.


Ahh, yes, the classic better loss argument instead of better win argument that was prevalent in the BCS era.

quote:

Bama gets the nod because it's Bama.


No, they get the nod because they beat USCe head-to-head.

This post was edited on 11/24/24 at 8:36 am
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
24878 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:35 am to
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Sorry if facts hurt your feelings…


I love USCe fans and their eternal hope. We know how this ends.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41193 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:36 am to
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Ole Miss has 3 losses. What was that score again?


Same with Alabama.

USCe’s problem is that they have the same record as 2 teams that beat them. USC better be resting for auburn and Texas next week.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
101348 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:42 am to
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USC better be resting for auburn and Texas next week.


We don't play Auburn or Texas next week
Posted by PrezCock
Florida
Member since Sep 2019
857 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:44 am to
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Ahh, yes, the classic better loss argument instead of better win argument that was prevalent in the BCS era.


If you want to look at the "Better Wins", then I think USC has Ole Miss and Bama beat. A&M probably has the better wins of the bunch, but USC is having the better finish to the season. If A&M beats UTw, I think they get the nod. If USC beats Clempson, they should get the nod.

But, in this day and age, losses count more than wins. Unfortunately. I would prefer we go back to the BCS model.
Posted by CarolinaCock
South Carolina
Member since Jun 2012
2652 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:48 am to
Suppose Alabama loses to Auburn?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31972 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:52 am to
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Hate to say it, but the committee is not putting South Carolina in over a national brand unless there is no alternative. If it is close, Bama gets in over SC every time.


Two things.

1) Bama fatigue.

Isn't that one of the reasons they stated the playoffs to begin with?

2) Everyone loves an underdog story....

Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3669 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:54 am to
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If you want to look at the "Better Wins", then I think USC has Ole Miss and Bama beat


Ole Miss and Bama both have 2 better wins than USCe with wins over UGA and USCe.

Ole Miss wins:
UGA
USCe
OU
Arkansas

Bama wins:
UGA
USCe
LSU
Mizzou

USCe wins:
A&M
Mizzou
Vanderbilt
OU
This post was edited on 11/24/24 at 8:55 am
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7238 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:11 am to
In this scenario, you'd have to add a win by USC over Clemson.

Nothing to sneeze at.

Recency bias is also at play. If Carolina wins out, they would unequivocally be the hottest team in the country, with wins over multiple top-25 teams.

No one else can say that.

I'm not saying that they do get in. Just that there's a stronger argument than is being credited. At the moment, our best win is also ND's calling card. But that changes next Saturday assuming a win over Clemson.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31972 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:12 am to
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I'm not saying that they do get in


Knowing SC Football, we'll be 13th.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5072 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 10:55 am to
I fixed my error. Meant to say USC is the only 3 loss team that has a chance
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3669 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 11:18 am to
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In this scenario, you'd have to add a win by USC over Clemson.


A Clemson team that was demolished by UGA, who lost to Bama and Ole Miss, who both beat USCe.

I just don't see a way to rationalize putting a 3 loss USCe in the playoff over a 3 loss Bama or 3 loss Ole Miss, given the above that happened on the field during the season, no matter how well USCe is playing to end the season.

Results on the field have to matter at some point.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
101348 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 11:19 am to
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Results on the field have to matter at some point.


Late losses always hurt more than early losses. This isn't new, and it hasn't changed. I don't think we make it in, but that doesn't change that point.
Posted by rebsfan10
Member since Dec 2013
2005 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 11:23 am to
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Late losses always hurt more than early losses. This isn't new, and it hasn't changed. I don't think we make it in, but that doesn't change that point.


If it came down to South Carolina or just ole miss or bama with 3 losses I could see usc getting because they have been better lately but I don't see them putting a team with 3 losses ahead of 2 teams that also have 3 losses and beat them head to head.
Posted by Tenn grad LSU fan
Woulhuntdn't you like to know spazz
Member since Apr 2023
1100 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 11:26 am to
Yeah you got stomped by ole miss beat out by lsu the games played for 5 quarters not 3
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